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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Berkshire => England => Berkshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: hblower on Tuesday 16 August 05 08:06 BST (UK)
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Hi
Can anyone help me please. I am looking for the following family in Abingdon St Helens:
William T(probably Thomas) Whittington 1826
Eliza Whittington 1828 (born Windsor)
Elizabeth Whittington 1851
Ann Whittington 1853
John Whittington 1858
Thomas Whittington 1860
They were all born in Abingdon, except Eliza. I can find them from 1871 onwards, but there is no sign of them in 1861 (on Ancestry).
Hilary
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Hi Hilary and welcome to Rootschat ;D
Pleased to say I have found them- mistranscribed as Wigginton-which is why you had trouble locating them.
They are at Finnegan's, Abington, St Helen's. RG 9/731 folio 88 page 30
Thomas William 35 a something spinner? b Abingdon
Eliza wife 30 a slop?? maker b Windsor
William 12
Betsey 10
Ann 8
John 4
Thomas 1
All kids born Abingdon.
Hope this helps ;)
All the best
Carol
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Hi Hilary
Thought you might like this (I have all sorts of stuff on Abingdon)
1851 WHITTINGTON
William H M 26 born Abingdon
Eliza W M 22 born Windsor
William 3 born Abingdon
Elizabeth 6w born Abingdon
a few doors away
WHITTINGTON
Thomas H M 54 Ropemaker born NTH Daventry?
Lucy W M 49 Spinner born Abingdon
Benjamin 23 Hempwork born Abingdon
Caroline 18 Spinner born Abingdon
Ann W 13 Scholar born Abingdon
+ 5 members of the Bell family from Germany lodging
Debbie
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Hi again
here they are in 1841 32/4/8 - Bury Lane Abingdon
WHITTINGTON
Thomas 40 Rope Maker N
Lucy 35 Y
William 15 Y
Benjamin 13 Y
Caroline 8 Y
Ann 4 Y
marriage from St Nicholas Abingdon
1821 September 2nd
Thomas Whittington bach otp to Lucy Thomas spinster otp
witnessed Benjamin Lowe
Debbie
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Hi ;D
Excellent! I was advised to give rootschat a try and now I shall recommend it to everyone. What a fast and useful response.
Wiggington! No wonder I couldn't find them. The spinner bit is probably twine spinner. It seems to be much the same as rope maker. Don't now about slop maker though.
I had found the marriage to Lucy but was unable to confirm the connection to William T. This means I can take the family back much further.
Thank you very much for your kind efforts.
Hilary
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Hi
a slop maker was a trouser maker - it was quite a big employer of women in Abingdon at the time - they would be delivered the materials to make up at home and then paid peice work for each pair they made - it was work that mothers with children could do at home
Debbie
PS Would you like me to see if I can find anything else on Lucy nee Thomas for you or are you just interested in the Whittinton line?
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Hi
Slop maker - that must be from the same root as a sailor's "Slop chest" that they purchased clothes from.
I would be grateful for anything on the Whittingtons or Lucy Thomas. It doesn't seem fair to just follow the male line. ;)
Hilary
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Hi
This is somewhat off topic so I may have to post it elsewhere, but you seem very knowledgable about the berkshire area.
William White 1843 born Buckland Berkshire is listed in the 1871 census Rg10/1281/7/116/9/43. (He is an in-law to Thomas Whittington, son of William T). Unfortunately he is in the county jail. His job is farm labourer he is 28 and married. The relationship to head is listed as Bobton. At least I think that is whay it says. Do you know what that could be?
Hilary
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Hi Hilary
I see what you mean - I have had a look at it and I can't figure it out either - however I think I know how to put a copy of the image on the Common Room part of these chat boards where some of the real experts hang out and we could see what they think - would you like me to do it?
Debbie
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Yes, Thank you. I have posted the question on the occupations board. I know it is not exactly an occupation but it was the nearest I could find.
Hilary
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Hi there
Can I add my two pennyworth? It's not an occupation.All the people above him are prisoners,the one immediately above is prisoners child.It seems to have a letter i as the last but one letter,as it has a dot above it.A small handful of men have the same notation hence the ditto's and then the word prisoner starts again.
I magnified it to oblivion ;D but still couldn't make the word out.
Over to the clever people who can clean up the very smudged writing I think ;D
Cheers
Carol
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Hi
I have posted the question and an image in the common room - so people can have a go at it
Debbie
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Hi
I don't know if you have seen - but both the people who have answered the question in the Common Room are inclined to the answer Debtor - for the relationship
Right - I have done some more digging in my various transcripts for Abingdon - I don't know how much of the following you already have, but I will put it here in case its new
From the registers for St Michaels - a comparitivly new church built in the 1850s I found (among others)
marriage1878 July 30th
John Lindsey (x) wid fa drover of St Helens s/o George Lindsey lab
to
Eliza Whittington (x) wid fa of Bury Street d/o Henry Porter - tailor by banns
witnessed by George Cole & Clarissa Porter
the fact that a Clarissa Porter witnessed this marriage made me think that others of Elizas family may be around in Abingdon.
I think this is her in 1841 census
32/01/17 Ock Street
PORTER
Elizabeth 30 Laundress Y
Eliza 10 Y
Henry 7 Y
So on searching for Porter in the St Helens registers I turned up this
marriage March 4th 1845
William WIGGINGTON (x) 20 bach twine spinner of Bury Lane s/o Thomas WIGGINGTON twine spinner
to
Eliza Porter (x) 18 spinster Sempstress of Bury Lane d/o Henry Porter - tailor
witnessed John Moltun & William Grace
and again from St Helens
marriage 25th September 1886
Job Seymour (x) 51 wid lab of Queen Street s/o Henry Seymour gardener
to
Eliza Lindsey (x) 52 wid machinist of Queen street d/o Henry Porter - tailor
Thee are other Wiggington entries in the St Helens register which I will have a look at later (I must do some housework first)
back soon
Debbie
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Hi
Found a burial - St helens
1841 Sept 21st John Wiggington of the Union Workhouse aged 80
from 1841 census 20/223/3 Abingdon Union Workhouse
John Whittington 80 Twine Spinner not born in county
I wonder if this could be Thomas's father
Baptisms from St Helens - WIGGINGTON
1822 Dec 15th Elizabeth d/o Thomas & Lucy
1825 July 30th Thomas William s/o Thomas & Lucy
1828 April 20th Benjamin Francis s/o Thomas & Lucy
1832 Nov 25th Caroline d/o Thomas & Lucy
marriage (not sure if connected or not)
1826 Oct 9th George Porter to Mary Wigginton
Burials
1804 June 11th Cornelius infant s/o John & Elizabeth Whittington twine spinner
1833 Aug 11th Charlotte Whittington aged 42
1840 Elizabeth Wiggington of Bury Lane aged 17
1853 Aug 28th Thomas Whittington of Bury Lane inf
1856 Aug 10th Eliza Whittington of Bury Lane 1y
1865 Aug 2 George Whittington of Bury Lane 1yr
Debbie
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Wow! A tremendous amount of information.
I had found Eliza's three marriages but only in the civil registration so I did not have the exact dates or, more importantly, the names of fathers and witnesses. I now know she was Eliza Porter and married two widowers. What does "fa" mean please?
Wiggington seems to be the more common spelling at an earlier time. John who died aged 80 certainly seems a likely candidate for Thomas' father. I shall see if I can find any further traces of him, possibly in the Davetry area.
The George Porter/ Mary Wiggington marriage is also worth further investigation.
Thank you once again for all your help.
Hilary
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Hi
Sorry - fa = full age (over 21)
Here are some bits on the family of Lucy Thomas
baptisms St Helens Abingdon
1802 March 7th Lucy d/o William & Martha Thomas - Lab
1799 Dec 26th Mary Ann d/o William & Martha Thomas - weaver
1804 Jan 3rd William s/o William & Martha Thomas - weaver
1809 Oct 8th Rachel d/o William & Martha Thomas - from St Nicholas
1812 May 17th Joseph s/o William & Martha Thomas - weaver from Nicholas
marriage - St Helens 1797 Oct 9th
William Thomas to Martha Vickers
from 1851 census - Thames Street
William Thomas H M 73 Parochial relief - late weaver born Abingdon
Martha Thomas W M 73 Parochial wife born Abingdon
Buirals from St Nicholas
1851 Oct 5th William Thomas of Thomas Street aged 74
1854 July 6th Martha Thomas of Thames Street aged 78
Debbie