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Title: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: Retrogirl94 on Friday 24 May 19 02:08 BST (UK)
Hello, I'm looking for any information on my 2x Great Grandfather Thomas Henry Mayne.
(1870-1912) Going back though my records, I realized I have made a mistake with Thomas's death year. It looks like he died in 1912 at the age of 42

I know he was born in a workhouse in Somerset but I have no record of his parents or siblings. He  moved to Wales when he was 15 and worked as a coal miner in Mountain Ash, Wales. In 1895, he married my 2x great grandmother, Mary Jane Cousins (1871-1961). They had 5 children. 2 died as children but the other 3 lived. Apart from my great grandad, I have very limited info on the family after 1911.

Any information about the Mayne family or any hints or tips to help me break this very confusing wall in my tree would be very helpful.

Thanks
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 24 May 19 05:32 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat! ;D

First thing to do would be to get a copy of his Birth Certificate.
Birth: March qtr 1869
Clutton Registration District     vol 5c, page 648

Main, Thomas Henry

The Mother's Maiden Name is blank - usually indicating an illegitimate birth.


A PDF copy will cost £7, and can be obtained using the above information from:
www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 24 May 19 06:23 BST (UK)
Welcome from me as well  :)

When you have the birth cert I also noticed that there are two more Main births in the Clutton Reg District on the GRO Birth Index with no mother's maiden name listed

AGNES    MAIN    
GRO Ref 1867  June Qter CLUTTON  Volume 05C  Page 652
ELLEN   MAIN      
GRO Ref 1865  Sept Qter CLUTTON  Volume 05C  Page 633

And just in case this is relevant I think these girls were living with their grandparents in 1871 in Publow Somerset as below. (I see your Thomas Henry lists his birthplace as Publow in the census) and there is a baptism on 8 Sep 1867 Publow of an Agnes Mayne with mother Ann Mayne -Single Woman

James Main 58   Somerset
Ann   Main   46   Publow, Somerset
Ellen   Main   Granddaughter   5   Publow,Somerset
Agnes Main   Granddaughter   3   1868  Publow, Somerset

Kay
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: avm228 on Friday 24 May 19 06:57 BST (UK)
Welcome from me too.

His mother may have died shortly before the 1871 census (when Thomas Mayne aged 1 was in the workhouse):

Ann Mayne, aged 30, Dec qtr 1870 Clutton 5c 455.
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: avm228 on Friday 24 May 19 07:09 BST (UK)
Tracing the Mayne/Cousins children:

Thomas James Mayne, mmn Cousins, Sep qtr 1898 Pontypridd (died Dec qtr 1898 Pontypridd, aged 0)
Alfred Mervyn Mayne, mmn Cousins, Dec qtr 1900 Pontypridd (died Dec qtr 1900 Pontypridd, aged 0)
Frederick Cyril Mayne, mmn Cousins, Jun qtr 1902 Pontypridd
Alfred Mervyn Mayne, mmn Cousins, Mar qtr 1903 Pontypridd (died Jun qtr 1927 Pontypridd, aged 24)
Violet Mayne, mmn Cousins, Sep qtr 1904 Pontypridd
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 24 May 19 07:16 BST (UK)
Welcome from me too.

His mother may have died shortly before the 1871 census (when Thomas Mayne aged 1 was in the workhouse):

Ann Mayne, aged 30, Dec qtr 1870 Clutton 5c 455.

The Somerset Burial Index on F M P confirms the burial was at Publow
Ann Main Age   30
Burial date   16 Oct 1870 Publow

Kay
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: avm228 on Friday 24 May 19 07:22 BST (UK)
Possible death for Thomas (though age slightly inaccurate):

Thomas Mayne aged 41, Sep qtr 1912 Pontypridd 11a 462.

Edit - sorry, I see you have him living until 1945.
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: Retrogirl94 on Saturday 25 May 19 02:08 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat! ;D

First thing to do would be to get a copy of his Birth Certificate.
Birth: March qtr 1869
Clutton Registration District     vol 5c, page 648

Main, Thomas Henry

The Mother's Maiden Name is blank - usually indicating an illegitimate birth.


A PDF copy will cost £7, and can be obtained using the above information from:
www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates

Hello, Thanks for your reply. I will defiantly look into this.
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 25 May 19 16:01 BST (UK)
1841 Census
James Maine, 25
Ann Maine, 20
Ann Maine, 3

1851 Census
James Main, 37, Ag Lab, born Compton Dando, Somerset
Ann Main, 30, born Publow
Ann Main, 12

1861 Census
James Maine, 49
Anne Maine, 40
Anne Maine, 21

Marriage;
01 Jun 1843, All Saints, Publow
James MAINE to Ann COBLEY, Bachelor/Spinster (no Fathers named)

Baptisms;
All Saints, Publow

Anne COBLEY 16 Jul 1820 Parents, JOSEPH/HARRIETT,  Father a Coalminer

ANN Cobley 08 Sep 1838, Mother ANNE, Note; Illegitimate. Private Bapt. Adm. Into ch. 18-11-1838

Marriage;
29 Jul 1805 All Saints, Publow
Joseph COBLEY to Harriet HODGES

Marriage;
25 Dec 1833, All Saints, Publow
Harriet COBLEY, Widow, to Roger WINDMILL, Widower

JOSEPH Cobley was buried 30 Apr 1826 age 43 ( birth c 1783)

Other Burials;
HARRIET Windmill 12 May 1867 age 84 ( c 1783)
ROGER Windmill 12 Sep 1852 age 76

Trish :)

Gosh Anc has the 1871 Census for James/Ann under Marin


Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 25 May 19 16:10 BST (UK)
1881 Census
James Mayne   72
Ann Mayne   65
Agnes Mayne   13

Agnes MAYN married Charles PIKE 24 May 1885, she named no Father.

All Marriages/Baptisms/Burials I have found are on FreeREG :)
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 25 May 19 16:16 BST (UK)
Lastly Ellen Mayne is a Servant in 1881 Census

1891 Census
James Flower   27
Ellen Flower   25 born Publow
Emily Flower   5


FLOWER, EMILY  ELLEN, Mothers mn MAYNE* 
GRO Reference: 1886  M Quarter in BEDMINSTER  Volume 05C  Page 699
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: Retrogirl94 on Sunday 26 May 19 00:28 BST (UK)
 Hi KGarrad,    Thanks for the advice. I will defiantly look into it.  :) :)
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: Retrogirl94 on Sunday 26 May 19 00:38 BST (UK)
Hi Kay99, Thanks for replying. I'm a new to family history researching and I could not find a birth record with the surname Mayne. Maybe I need to look at spelling it Main not Mayne. Hopefully, this has given me a new possible lead. So Thank You  :) :)   
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: Retrogirl94 on Sunday 26 May 19 00:49 BST (UK)
Hi avm228, Thanks for reading and replying. You defiantly have the right family. Frederick Cyril was by great grandad. I know about him but I have no information at all on the rest of his family. I cant seem to find any trace of them after 1911.
 I did go back though my research so far and I think I made a mistake with Thomas Henry's death year. I think he died in 1912 as you said. So Thank You for looking as I probably would have missed that mistake.  :) :)   
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: Retrogirl94 on Sunday 26 May 19 00:58 BST (UK)
Hi trish1120, Thanks for your reply. Wow. You have given me so much to go on. I'm new to family research and to this forum so I'm just trying to get my head around it all the moment. I was getting very confused about the different spellings of Mayne. But your reply has helped me to go forward and to remember that surname spellings could have changed or been missed spelt in the records. So Thank You. This has defiantly helped.  :) :)     
Title: Re: Looking for any info on Thomas Henry Mayne and his family in Wales.
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 26 May 19 13:12 BST (UK)
Yes spellings of surnames were very fluid in those days.

If you need any more help just add any queries to this one.

Trish :)