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Title: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Saturday 18 May 19 22:18 BST (UK)
My calendar says "no".
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Craclyn on Saturday 18 May 19 22:20 BST (UK)
That would rather depend on the context for your question.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 18 May 19 22:21 BST (UK)
It's nearly 5/12 gone, so it's mid-2019.

 ???
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: conahy calling on Saturday 18 May 19 22:36 BST (UK)
Irish Genealogy were supposed to add more BMD records in "early 2019"

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Saturday 18 May 19 22:40 BST (UK)
Irish Genealogy were supposed to add more BMD records in "early 2019"

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

We have a winner!'

A government site, so my calendar must be wrong!
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Maiden Stone on Saturday 18 May 19 23:17 BST (UK)
Julian v Gregorian calendar?
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: CBGenealogy on Wednesday 22 May 19 22:27 BST (UK)
I know it's a PITA but there's literally one guy working on the site and it's not his priority, as far as I know.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Thursday 23 May 19 21:10 BST (UK)
I know it's a PITA but there's literally one guy working on the site and it's not his priority, as far as I know.

All the more reason not to put a big banner on the front of the official web site, trumpeting an "Early 2019" release that has not happened!  The false promise is still there, every time you go to this site.

How much work is it to remove this? 30 seconds?
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: CBGenealogy on Thursday 23 May 19 21:20 BST (UK)
I agree it's irritating but they simply don't care about the website. They probably haven't looked at it since they put up that banner. And let's not forget they had earlier promised an update last November...
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 23 May 19 21:29 BST (UK)
It was reported in April that they are technical testing for the upload.
https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2019/04/irish-gro-releases-latest-update-on.html

Your getting handed free records at your fingers tips, it's gold dust, give them/him a break.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: dublin1850 on Thursday 23 May 19 23:06 BST (UK)
I would imagine the thousands of applications from people trying to escape the silliness of Brexit are slowing things up too. The staff have other things to be doing.
It will be updated eventually, though personally, it's the digitisation of the CofI records I am more excited about.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Thursday 23 May 19 23:12 BST (UK)
Your getting handed free records at your fingers tips, it's gold dust, give them/him a break.

May be free for me, but not for you! "Your tax Euros at work"

As for giving them a break, is it too much to ask that they don't make highly publicized promises which - apparently - they have no intention of meeting?  Much better to say nothing.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 23 May 19 23:38 BST (UK)
Ireland gives too much stuff away FREE...
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 23 May 19 23:55 BST (UK)
I'm sure the did intend it to be early 2019, they missed the target. It's Ireland, we expect targets to be missed :D , just be glad your not waiting on the M7 roads works to finish.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Friday 24 May 19 00:39 BST (UK)
Ireland gives too much stuff away FREE...

The Irish are such kind generous people. Supporting all those expensive German bankers!
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Sinann on Friday 24 May 19 01:14 BST (UK)
Build a bridge
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: CBGenealogy on Friday 24 May 19 09:07 BST (UK)
We'd all love these records to be released but since they're free, I'll be content with an occasional good-natured moan. That site has saved me 1000s of euro since its launch, and that's just on my personal genealogy.

Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 04 June 19 09:08 BST (UK)
Now updated and online!! 
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Tuesday 04 June 19 22:45 BST (UK)
Now updated and online!!

Looks like they don't like me. Long wanted an image of my great-grandparents marriage registration. After all these years waiting, no image! Why do I get this message rather than an image?

Date of Event   26 December 1877
Group Registration ID   2616273
SR District/Reg Area   Wexford

Report any error in transcription.

Photocopies or official certificates can be obtained via the following link.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: CBGenealogy on Tuesday 04 June 19 22:54 BST (UK)
If you wanted it that much, why didn't you just pay €4 to get it?  ???
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Tuesday 04 June 19 22:55 BST (UK)
If you wanted it that much, why didn't you just pay €4 to get it?  ???

Because it is supposed to be free!  I have a personal hand transcription these many years.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 04 June 19 23:18 BST (UK)
Now updated and online!!

Looks like they don't like me. Long wanted an image of my great-grandparents marriage registration. After all these years waiting, no image! Why do I get this message rather than an image?

Date of Event   26 December 1877
Group Registration ID   2616273
SR District/Reg Area   Wexford

Report any error in transcription.

Photocopies or official certificates can be obtained via the following link.


If they had waited 1 more week before they died you'd have Cert....   ;D

Register images of the Civil Records of Irish Births, Deaths and Marriages

The years covered by the release of the historic records of Births, Marriages and Deaths are:

Births: 1864 to 1916

Marriages: 1870** to 1941

Deaths: 1878** to 1966

**The General Register Office are currently working on updating further records of Marriages dating back to 1845 and Deaths dating back to 1864.

These will be included in future updates to the records available on the website.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 04 June 19 23:20 BST (UK)
oops... the Marriage you wanted!!   ;D
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Tuesday 04 June 19 23:22 BST (UK)
oops... the Marriage you wanted!!   ;D

Precisely!

But my question remains - why is there no link to an image for some B/D/M, which are within the range that should be available online? - I have encountered this before.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 04 June 19 23:29 BST (UK)
Find one near it and look through the pages for the one you want.
Find out the vol and page number on FamilySearch that can be handy for finding the page as you browse
http://www.irelandgen.com/tools/gro_img_nav.php

If you have it in a parish register you can look for others married at the same time and see if the marriage is on the same page or a page nearby.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 04 June 19 23:41 BST (UK)
oops... the Marriage you wanted!!   ;D

Precisely!

But my question remains - why is there no link to an image for some B/D/M, which are within the range that should be available online? - I have encountered this before.


Looks like they don't like you....   ;D
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Tuesday 04 June 19 23:47 BST (UK)
Find one near it and look through the pages for the one you want.
Find out the vol and page number on FamilySearch that can be handy for finding the page as you browse
http://www.irelandgen.com/tools/gro_img_nav.php

If you have it in a parish register you can look for others married at the same time and see if the marriage is on the same page or a page nearby.

Looks to be sage advice...
But things are still not looking good!
Preceding marriage in parish register was 4 months earlier (business was very poor!!), so not very useful.
Succeeding marriage, in first week of January 1878, would be in different civil registration volume - but is not in the ciivil registration index at all anyway!
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 05 June 19 08:59 BST (UK)
Sometimes it works sometime not, all you can do is keep scrolling through the register book and hope to get lucky, it can be a problem when you come to the end of the reel as it's hard to know where to go next, most reels cover more than one sub district so it's hit and miss. Also that browsing link doesn't pick up the extra images you get on some results, you know when there is anything up to 4 links on one result.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: CBGenealogy on Wednesday 05 June 19 09:02 BST (UK)
For births, I suspect the reason an image is not there is that they were late registrations so they appear in a page of a later year.

One of my great-grandparent couples were rubbish at registering their kids. Eldest and a couple of others seem to have none at all, the next 2 have index references (both in the 1910s but no image). I know of a later son born in 1925 but not registered until 1952. My own grandfather not registered until he got his pension!
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: conahy calling on Wednesday 08 January 20 22:36 GMT (UK)
Some new updates to Civil records January 2020

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 08 January 20 22:47 GMT (UK)
Wow that was quick, wasn't expecting a update for months, hope we get the rests of the deaths this year as well.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 08 January 20 23:20 GMT (UK)
I've sent  an email to them today to say the District has gone awol again for Death entries that haven't yet been digitised.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: scotmum on Thursday 09 January 20 11:50 GMT (UK)
I've sent  an email to them today to say the District has gone awol again for Death entries that haven't yet been digitised.

They seem to have fixed it again. Deaths not yet digitised are at least now, once again, showing District/Reg Area this morning.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 01 February 21 12:14 GMT (UK)
An additional year of historic Births, Marriages and Deaths (Index entry and register image) are now available to view on the website www.irishgenealogy.ie website. The records now available online include:  Birth register records – 1864 to 1920; Marriage register records – 1845 to 1945 & Death register records – 1871* to 1970

Publication date of 8th January 2020 hasn't changed but appears Births 1920, Marriages 1945 and Deaths 1970 have been added.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/news/154-update-to-the-civil-records-3

Just downloaded my aunt's birth record in 1920.


Edited to add:
Claire Santry confirms it
https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2021/02/irishgenealogyie-adds-rolling-year-of.html

Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: CBGenealogy on Monday 01 February 21 12:16 GMT (UK)
Yes, I've been playing around with it and ticked off a few copy records for my files.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 01 February 21 12:25 GMT (UK)
Death registration of one of my GGMs might be on. So far I haven't found either of them. One died before 1901 and the other between 1901 and 1911.
 
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 01 February 21 17:02 GMT (UK)

OK, here's the official notice today at 10.00am.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/news/154-update-to-the-civil-records-3
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Monday 01 February 21 19:43 GMT (UK)

OK, here's the official notice today at 10.00am.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/news/154-update-to-the-civil-records-3

So no progress at all in dealing with the missing historic death registrations, 1864 to 1871.  >:(
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: CBGenealogy on Monday 01 February 21 20:03 GMT (UK)
I wouldn't say no progress.

They gave us 7 extra years last year. I know a lot of GRO staff were seconded for contact tracing.

And it's all for free: imagine the money we'd be spending if this was UK records.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: what0101 on Sunday 16 May 21 23:32 BST (UK)
Any idea when the next update is? I'm still hoping for some of those early death records but I may have to bite the bullet and start ordering them!
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: CBGenealogy on Tuesday 18 May 21 09:23 BST (UK)
None. They're not great at communicating. I'd seriously doubt they'd have anything before Autumn though.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: what0101 on Tuesday 18 May 21 11:30 BST (UK)
None. They're not great at communicating. I'd seriously doubt they'd have anything before Autumn though.

Thanks. I'll still take no communication and free records over the UK system.  ;D
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 01 March 22 20:13 GMT (UK)

An additional year of historic Births, Marriages and Deaths (Index entry and register image) are now available to view on the www.irishgenealogy.ie website. The records now available online include:  Birth register records – 1864 to 1921; Marriage register records – 1845 to 1946 & Death register records – 1871* to 1971.

The index of deaths from 1864 to 1870 inclusive is also in the civil records database but the corresponding register images have yet to be added.

https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2022/03/rolling-years-added-to.html

https://www.thejournal.ie/civil-registration-records-ireland-update-5697753-Mar2022/

Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Jang on Tuesday 01 March 22 20:29 GMT (UK)
I ordered an 1870 death record in November and am still waiting for it!
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Maiden Stone on Tuesday 01 March 22 20:33 GMT (UK)
I've just looked up a death in Swinford in 1970. Youngest person on the page was 63; 4 were over 90.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: dublin1850 on Thursday 03 March 22 10:02 GMT (UK)
I ordered an 1870 death record in November and am still waiting for it!

I would contact them again. That sort of delay is not normal, even in covid times. You may have been lost in the system.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Jang on Thursday 03 March 22 20:36 GMT (UK)
I've tried to contact them at least 3 or 4 times to various email addresses but never receive a reply.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 27 March 23 11:40 BST (UK)

According to Claire Santry, the civil records have been updated with you now being able to search and view on the site:
Birth register index and images – 1864 to 1922
Marriage register index and images – 1845 to 1947
Death register index 1864 to 1972. Images 1871 to 1972 only.

https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2023/03/rolling-years-of-civil-bmd-registers.html


Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: scotmum on Monday 27 March 23 12:24 BST (UK)

According to Claire Santry, the civil records have been updated with you now being able to search and view on the site:
Birth register index and images – 1864 to 1922
Marriage register index and images – 1845 to 1947
Death register index 1864 to 1972. Images 1871 to 1972 only.

https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2023/03/rolling-years-of-civil-bmd-registers.html

Thanks for highlighting latest update. Agree with Claire about it being frustrating there is still no sign yet of the register images for deaths from 1864 to 1870 though.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Monday 27 March 23 22:26 BST (UK)
At this rate, I may end up online myself before 1864-71 is released.....
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 28 March 23 07:11 BST (UK)

Just to note that it's death records for 1864-1870 that are outstanding.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/news/154-update-to-the-civil-records-3 (and this hasn't been updated)


Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Tuesday 28 March 23 07:17 BST (UK)

Just to note that it's death records for 1864-1870 that are outstanding.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/news/154-update-to-the-civil-records-3 (and this hasn't been updated)

Not all of 1871 is online, probably most missing, so 1864-71 is outstanding.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: shanreagh on Tuesday 28 March 23 21:39 BST (UK)
At this rate, I may end up online myself before 1864-71 is released.....


Nooooo Wexflyer.  I hope not.  I'm still waiting for that time period too. 
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 14 February 24 11:21 GMT (UK)

Claire Santry
Rolling years updates to civil BMDs added to IrishGenealogy.ie

https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2024/02/rolling-years-updates-to-civil-bmds.html


Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: conahy calling on Friday 16 February 24 23:28 GMT (UK)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuVF8G2_QA

Link to You tube video 22 minutes long by John Grenham on "Irish Genealogy search quirks"

Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Marcello on Saturday 24 February 24 09:52 GMT (UK)
Thank you for sharing the link for this video. I've just watched it. It's very insightful and helpful...lots of tips for searching more effectively on Irish Genealogy.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Sinann on Monday 24 March 25 22:07 GMT (UK)
Update

Almost there the indexes for the new years are up but no images yet, and the pre 1871 deaths have their Group registration ID but again no images yet.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Tuesday 25 March 25 02:21 GMT (UK)
Update

Almost there the indexes for the new years are up but no images yet, and the pre 1871 deaths have their Group registration ID but again no images yet.

In short, it still isn't "Early 2019"!!
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 27 March 25 12:51 GMT (UK)
Images now available
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: conahy calling on Thursday 27 March 25 15:53 GMT (UK)
Still no image for an 1870 death that I would like see.
Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 27 March 25 16:56 GMT (UK)

Still no image for an 1870 death that I would like see.

Agreed, still no death images for 1864-1870  ::)

Title: Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
Post by: Wexflyer on Thursday 27 March 25 18:19 GMT (UK)
What's Another Year?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcJK7OLLxh4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcJK7OLLxh4)