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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Derbyshire => England => Derbyshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: carlingford on Wednesday 15 May 19 20:23 BST (UK)
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Hi, I would like to trace the history of a house in Glossop which my daughter has just bought, the house in question is number 8 Pikes Lane Glossop. Any information would be greatly appreciated as we know very little about the house.
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You could start with 1911 & 1901 Census, and the 1939 Register.
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1901
Richard Bennett Head, 44 a Drapery Traveller own account b Kneesall Notts
Frances Bennett Wife 33 Glossop
Ethel A daughter 7. Glossop
Frances Ida daughter 6 Glossop
Martha Roberts 67 widow, mother in law, Northamptonshire, Sibbertoft
John Garner, nephew, 18. Labourer at paper mill, Leicestershire, Fleckney
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1891
Abraham Hampson Head Male 41 1850 Machine Fitter Glossop,
Sarah Ellen Hampson Wife Female 26 1865 Hollingsworth, Cheshire
George Hampson Son 4 1887 Glossop
Edith Hampson Daughter 3 1888 Glossop
Mary Hampson Dau 1 1890 Glossop
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1881
David Dawson Head 51 1830 Cotton Overlooker Mellor, Derbyshire
Sarah Dawson Wife 45 1836. Glossop. Children all Glossop
Matilda Dawson D. 13 1868 Cotton Weaver
Thomas Dawson Son 12 1869
Samuel Dawson S. 9 1872 Scholar
Mary Dawson D. 5 1876 Scholar
Possibly these were the first occupants?
Map surveyed in 1879 doesn’t have it.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/101599878
Obviously called Pikes Lane as Pikes farm was at the end of it.
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Local electoral rolls might be in local library? Derbyshire Archives?
In 1939 the house was vacant.
I am not allowed to post 1911
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Map surveyed in 1879 doesn’t have it.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/101599878
Obviously called Pikes Lane as Pikes farm was at the end of it.
It is shown on the 1879 map https://maps.nls.uk/view/101599878#zoom=6&lat=3444&lon=5130&layers=BT
It is also shown on the 1880 Glossop Town Plan at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/403026/393667/13/100156
Stan
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Map surveyed in 1879 doesn’t have it.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/101599878
Obviously called Pikes Lane as Pikes farm was at the end of it.
It is shown on the 1879 map https://maps.nls.uk/view/101599878#zoom=6&lat=3444&lon=5130&layers=BT
It is also shown on the 1880 Glossop Town Plan at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/403026/393667/13/100156
Stan
I beg it’s pardon. Was looking at the Princess Street intersection rather than St John’s. Sorry.
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There is a report in the Hyde & Glossop Weekly News, and North Cheshire Herald - Saturday 04 September 1875 which mentions No. 12 Pike's Lane Glossop, so No 8 was probably there at the same time as shown on the Town Plan.
Stan
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8 Pike's Lane is in the 1871 Census. RG10; Piece: 3643; Folio: 25; Page: 42
Joshua Andrew 45 Overlocker of Power Looms
Ellen Andrew 42 Housekeeper
Noah Andrew 16 Warehouseman
Walter Andrew 14 Paper Finisher
Mary Andrew 6
Albert Andrew 3
Stan
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1912 Directory:
Taylor, Robert, insurance agent
http://www.glossopheritage.co.uk/tradedir/dir1912.html
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The land on which number 8 Pikes Lane is built (and numbers 4 and 6) was leased on 15th January 1872 by Isaac Hadfield of Whitfield, Gentleman, to John Edward Batty of Pikes Lane, Glossop, Tin plate worker.
It was a lease "of a plot of land situate at Whitfield in the parish of Glossop in the county of Derby for building upon.
To the north, being 89 ft 8 ins by John Edward Batty's Leasehold.
To the east, being 24 feet by John Street.
To the south, being unmarked (but looks same as north) by Ground intended to be demised by Mr Isaac Hadfield to Tom Bradbury.
To the west, being 27 ft 7 ins by Land belonging to M. E. Hadfield Esq.
In total, the plot comprises 252 square yards.".
The ground rent for the whole plot was (still is) £1 11s 6d per annum.
Isaac Hadfield was my great great grandfather.
The freehold ownership of the land stayed in the family until I sold it about 9 years ago.
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8 Pike's Lane is in the 1871 Census. RG10; Piece: 3643; Folio: 25; Page: 42
Joshua Andrew 45 Overlocker of Power Looms
Ellen Andrew 42 Housekeeper
Noah Andrew 16 Warehouseman
Walter Andrew 14 Paper Finisher
Mary Andrew 6
Albert Andrew 3
Stan
I think house numbers may have changed since then. The original lease has a date of 1871 but that has been crossed out and changed to 1872.
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Thanks so much for the posts, we really are enjoying the history of this old house, wonderful.
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May be worth asking the conveyancing solicitor if there are any documents in the deeds. Years ago our solicitors contacted us to ask if we wanted a folder of old documents from our deeds. They were clearing filing cabinets and the documents were no longer relevant. The documents started with deeds for the land, planning for the terrace of six houses and mortgage documents for all the previous owners who had since died. It was fascinating reading & we left the folder with the new owners when we sold up
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I was a bit short of time yesterday so I've had another look at the original lease deeds (some of which I was able to retain possession of when I sold the land). I also had a nagging memory about that particular plot.
The land on which numbers 4, 6 and 8 Pikes Lane are built were originally leased by my 3 x great grandfather, John Hadfield, to a John Chappell on 1st April 1856. For some reason the lease must have been surrendered and was re-leased in 1872 to John Batty (who is recorded as living in number 4 in 1871). The annual ground rent in 1856 was £2 1s 6d, the difference presumably explained by the fact that the 1872 lease covered a slightly smaller plot of land:
Mr John Hadfield to Mr John Chappell - Counterpart Lease.
Counterpart Lease of a plot of land situate at Whitfield in the parish of Glossop in the county of Derby for building upon.
BETWEEN John Hadfield of Whitfield in the parish of Glossop in the county of Derby Yeoman and John Chappell of Whitfield in the parish of Glossop Spinner.
ALL that plot piece or parcel of land as the same is now measured and set out situate lying and being in Whitfield in the parish of Glossop in the county of Derby heretofore part of a certain close or field of land of him the said John Hadfield called The Bridge Field and bounded on the Northerly side thereof by other part of the said close called The Bridge Field on the Southerly side thereof by a Lane leading from the Old Highway between Whitfield and Simmondley to The Pikes on the Easterly side thereof by land of the said John Hadfield now leased or intended to be leased to Samuel Peter Carrington heretofore part of the said close called The Bridge Field and on the Westerly side thereof by other part of the said close of the said John Hadfield called The Bridge Field intended hereafter to be made into a street of eight yards wide and which said plot piece or parcel of land contains on the Northerly side thereof forty six feet and three inches or thereabouts on the Southerly side thereof forty five feet or thereabouts on the Easterly side thereof from the point in the plan drawn in the margin of these presents marked A being the south easterly corner thereof to the point in the same plan marked B on the said Easterly side thereof thirty seven feet or thereabouts and from the same last mentioned point marked B to the point in the said plan marked C being the Northeasterly corner thereof thirty one feet or thereabouts making along the whole Easterly side thereof sixty eight feet or thereabouts and on the Westerly side thereof fifty four feet or thereabouts being in width across from the said point on the Easterly side thereof marked B in the said plan in a direct line to the Westerly side thereof to the point marked D in the said plan fifty three feet and six inches and which said plot piece or parcel of land contains in the whole Three hundred and twenty eight square yards or thereabouts.
The land on which 2 Pikes Lane and 54 & 56 Hollincross Lane are built was leased on the same day (1 April 1856) but that on which numbers 10 to 10 Pikes Lane were built was not leased until 22nd August 1859.
Pikes Lane is so named because it it led "from the highway between Whitfield and Simmondley to the Pikes". The Pikes was Pikes Farm and Pike Plantation (on which The Junction pub was built in 1817).
"the highway between Whitfield and Simmondley" ran from Victoria Street, along James Street and Hollincross Lane and down Slatelands (past Slatelands Cottage shown on the 1879 map referenced above).
John Chappell and family are listed in the 1861 census as living in Hollincross Lane (presumably the enumerator didn't know where it ended and Pikes Lane began). Which house that was (4, 6 or 8 ) is not known:
John Chappell Head Married Male 32 1829 Cotton Spinner Glossop, Derbyshire, England
Mary Chappell Wife Married Female 32 1829 - Cumberworth, Yorkshire, England
Walter Chappell Son - Male 6 1855 Scholar Glossop, Derbyshire, England
Richard Chappell Son - Male 2 1859 - Glossop, Derbyshire, England
Joseph E Chappell Son - Male 0 1861 - Glossop, Derbyshire, England
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Wow! thanks for even more information, very interesting about the lease deeds, a big thankyou to all who have posted.
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Thanks for all the information given, Just like to say my daughter has recently been given the deeds to her house by the previous owners, which are really interesting.