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Title: John Maloney, born 1833 in Southwark
Post by: Rosaryhippo on Monday 13 May 19 13:30 BST (UK)
I am trying to trace information re John Maloney, born 1833 in Southwark. He married my 2nd great grandmother Emma Blair in 1862. He was a widower when he married.
He already had 2 daughters, Maryann  born 1853 and Sarah born 1858. He had Alice born 1863 with Emma Blair,
In 1864, he lived at 173, Albany Rd, Camberwell. His father was John Maloney and was a poulterer, he was born in Ireland.
Thanks
Linda
Title: Re: Re: 1861/71 - Maloney - Southwark
Post by: heywood on Monday 13 May 19 15:41 BST (UK)
Hello,
Is your John a different one to those mentioned here? If so, it would be best to have a separate thread. Just click ‘report to moderator’ and ask for a new thread to be started with your post.

Is this your John in 1871 which you may have?

280/47/46

John Maloney 38 yrs
Emma Maloney   34 yrs
Maryann Maloney 18 yrs
Sarah Maloney   13 yrs
Alice Maloney 8 yrs

What information are you looking for? Do you have all census information?

Heywood
Title: Re: Re: 1861/71 - Maloney - Southwark
Post by: heywood on Monday 13 May 19 15:59 BST (UK)
For information

1861 337/8/9

Emma Blair 22 yrs boarder and John Maloney 29 yrs boarder with daughter Mary.

1861 331/155/27
Sarah Maloney 3 yrs is a Niece in the household of Richard and Jane Thornton. I think it is niece although transcribed as ‘nurse’.

There is a marriage in 1839 for Richard Thornton to Jane Shay.
Sarah’s birth gives mother as Shay.
Title: Re: Re: 1861/71 - Maloney - Southwark
Post by: heywood on Monday 13 May 19 16:48 BST (UK)
Possibly this family but age of John is out.

1851 1557/192/53

John Maloney 62 yrs Greengrocer
Ether Maloney 53 yrs
John Maloney 22 yrs Printer’s Labourer
Edward Maloney   17 yrs Coal Porter

Same family are at 1841 1083/24/40
No occupation for John snr and there is also Matthew Maloney 50 yrs and William Maloney 30yrs.
Title: Re: Re: 1861/71 - Maloney - Southwark
Post by: Rosaryhippo on Tuesday 14 May 19 09:15 BST (UK)
Hi
Thank you for this, will check this out.
LInda
Title: Re: Re: 1861/71 - Maloney - Southwark
Post by: Rosaryhippo on Tuesday 14 May 19 09:23 BST (UK)
Hi

The information you gave me re the niece staying with Richard and Jane Thornton is very interesting.

Thank you
Linda
Title: Re: Re: 1861/71 - Maloney - Southwark
Post by: Rosaryhippo on Tuesday 14 May 19 09:35 BST (UK)
Hi
Sorry to bother you again but you say Sarahs birth gives mother as Shay, I have looked at ancestry dna , is it on their as can see no record of mothers name.
Thanks
Linda
Title: Re: Re: 1861/71 - Maloney - Southwark
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 14 May 19 10:31 BST (UK)
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Gives mother’s maiden name. You need to sign in and go to GRO indexes, then search.
Mary Ann’s birth also shows Shay.
Title: Re: Re: 1861/71 - Maloney - Southwark
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 14 May 19 10:53 BST (UK)
That GRO site also shows a death:

Sarah Maloney 29 yrs in 1860, Newington.
It may be John’s wife /Sarah’s mother  ???

I can’t see a marriage for John to Ms Shay , can you?
Title: Re: Re: 1861/71 - Maloney - Southwark
Post by: Rosaryhippo on Tuesday 14 May 19 10:57 BST (UK)
Hi
Unfortunately I am at work at the moment but will look into this tonight when I get home.

LInda
Title: Re: John Maloney, born 1833 in Southwark
Post by: Rosaryhippo on Wednesday 15 May 19 09:32 BST (UK)
With regard to Sarah and Mary Ann Maloney, the older girl Mary Ann Maloney has on a census she was born in Ireland.
LInda
Title: Re: John Maloney, born 1833 in Southwark
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 15 May 19 09:58 BST (UK)
Yes, I saw that but there is a possible birth as I mentioned.
Does she show Ireland as her birthplace in all censuses?
Title: Re: John Maloney, born 1833 in Southwark
Post by: Rosaryhippo on Wednesday 15 May 19 10:07 BST (UK)
It shows Ireland as being in 1 census, will try to look for other census naming her.

Thanks
Linda