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Title: Unlinked Tree or No Tree
Post by: BourneGooner on Monday 06 May 19 19:33 BST (UK)
Hi all

So So So So frustrating when you go to Ancestry DNA find links and they haven't linked their test to a tree, you get Unlinked Trees or No Trees........

Aaarrrghh!!!!!!! why did you bother doing the test in the first place uploading it to Ancestry if you're not going to link it to any information Aaarrrghh!!!!!!!

Sorry for the rant but it's just so frustrating.

BourneGooner
Title: Re: Unlinked Tree or No Tree
Post by: Gadget on Monday 06 May 19 20:05 BST (UK)
Maybe they haven't worked out that they should link a tree.

However, you can look at those who have unlinked trees by clicking on  unlinked tree.  Many are just 3 or a few more and all 'private' but I've found quite a few links with others.

Also, you could message them.

Gadget
Title: Re: Unlinked Tree or No Tree
Post by: hurworth on Monday 06 May 19 21:47 BST (UK)
I like to think that they haven't linked a tree yet.
Title: Re: Unlinked Tree or No Tree
Post by: hallmark on Monday 06 May 19 22:09 BST (UK)
Seeing that this is a rant rather than about a specific family it is something I have wondered about.


We all know about the crazy "trees" on Ancestry, "siblings" being put together even though they weren't siiblings etc.

So some of yours end up on one of these "trees" and they have taken a DNA test.. Would one end up with matches to these trees simply because there is a DNA yet one is led to a crazy "tree" ?
Title: Re: Unlinked Tree or No Tree
Post by: Nic. on Monday 06 May 19 22:22 BST (UK)
Unfortunately many of the matches will never have family trees attached as the person in question has only done the test because they want to know their ethnic origins.

It’s extremely frustrating.

Nic
Title: Re: Unlinked Tree or No Tree
Post by: Craclyn on Monday 06 May 19 23:08 BST (UK)
It is also quite common for a match to have two unlinked trees: one paternal and one maternal. Some folks struggle with combining the two into a single tree after they take a DNA test, so they never get round to linking.
Title: Re: Unlinked Tree or No Tree
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 07 May 19 00:52 BST (UK)
We all know about the crazy "trees" on Ancestry, "siblings" being put together even though they weren't siiblings etc.

So some of yours end up on one of these "trees" and they have taken a DNA test.. Would one end up with matches to these trees simply because there is a DNA yet one is led to a crazy "tree" ?

Good question as this is one of the reasons I still haven't decided on a test!

If my thinking is correct then...

The match would be with the person who took the test but (hypothetical) that person was adopted & putting their adoptive parents on their tree rather than their biological parents then this is going to lead in the wrong direction if we're looking for matches i.e. in the same token if someone has followed the wrong line even with a paper trail which is actually wrong (2 people with same names/dates/areas) ditto above  ???

The reason I ask is a tree I found with my directs attached, had no attachment with mine remotely (I sorted hers out) & as above same names/dates but...2 different remote islands (Scotland) which to a foreigner wouldn't seem too far apart I suppose  ::)

Annie
Title: Re: Unlinked Tree or No Tree
Post by: Craclyn on Tuesday 07 May 19 21:34 BST (UK)
Rosinish, Your match list is based on shared DNA and is not affected by a tree or lack of tree. The hints that you get through ThruLines and Common Ancestors do draw on information from trees and may therefore contain errors, which is why you need to check each hint and source it before adding to your own tree.
Title: Re: Unlinked Tree or No Tree
Post by: davidft on Tuesday 07 May 19 22:04 BST (UK)
Good question as this is one of the reasons I still haven't decided on a test!

If my thinking is correct then...

The match would be with the person who took the test but (hypothetical) that person was adopted & putting their adoptive parents on their tree rather than their biological parents then this is going to lead in the wrong direction if we're looking for matches i.e. in the same token if someone has followed the wrong line even with a paper trail which is actually wrong (2 people with same names/dates/areas)

Annie


Om Ancestry it is possible to give  a person two sets of parents, a biological set and an adoptive set. Provided the tree owner labels them correctly then a match will follow the biological path in the tree not the adoptive one.


I have a great grandmother who was adopted. On the tree I have both sets of parents but the biological set take precedence as they are the ones I am connected to. However I also have the adoptive set on there for a few generations as they are the ones who brought up my great grandmother and indeed the name of my grandmother was taken from the adoptive mother's sister rather than from the biological tree.
Title: Re: Unlinked Tree or No Tree
Post by: davidft on Tuesday 07 May 19 22:07 BST (UK)
Hi all

So So So So frustrating when you go to Ancestry DNA find links and they haven't linked their test to a tree, you get Unlinked Trees or No Trees........

Aaarrrghh!!!!!!! why did you bother doing the test in the first place uploading it to Ancestry if you're not going to link it to any information Aaarrrghh!!!!!!!

Sorry for the rant but it's just so frustrating.

BourneGooner


just to say have you checked the profiles of those matches who do not have trees as sometimes there is genealogical information there. OK it may be a longshot but worth a look.
Title: Re: Unlinked Tree or No Tree
Post by: sugarfizzle on Wednesday 08 May 19 05:44 BST (UK)
I think we just have to accept that people have different reasons for DNA testing - their goal is not necessarily the same as your goal.

Some may have been given a test for Christmas or birthday, but have no real interest in the results. Some may be interested in the ethnicity reports, though they may be disappointed when their results come in. Others may be interested but have no knowledge of their family, as in the case of adoptees.

Whatever the reason for testing, the more people who do test, the more matches for everyone else, tree or no tree. Whether it is by looking at shared matches, by messaging matches, or by a bit of general sleuthing, you can sometimes find a connectIon.

So, frustrating - yes. But we just have to accept the nuggets, in whatever form, that come our way. If I found genuine connections with all of my many thousands of matches I would be overwhelmed with information.

Regards Margaret
Title: Re: Unlinked Tree or No Tree
Post by: brigidmac on Wednesday 08 May 19 05:53 BST (UK)
 I think no linked trees still  come up with common ancestor links which you can see

Ive just spent hours colour coding matches ..There are a lot of dna matches from USA with no  name matches and no shared locations
Im.begininning to think that my mysterious maternal great grandma must have had another baby while she was in New York with her  legitimate son during WW 1