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Title: MURGATROYD, Arthur James, wife Florence - from UK to South Africa and return
Post by: stannarp on Thursday 25 April 19 20:01 BST (UK)
Hi all,

Trying to help a friend who is looking for dates that his mother's family came to and from South Africa from the UK in the early 1900's (about 1910-1930).

Not sure how much passenger shipping was going on in the WWI years, but he says that his mom is adamant that the family went from the UK to South Africa for 6 months every year or so; which seems a bit strange considering that the voyage was not exactly a short one!

I've done some checks and can find a couple of mentions of MURGATROYD with Arthur and / or James as names, and some with mention of Florence MURGATROYD; but I'm currently not subscribed to any of the paid research sites (taking a work induced break from family history :() to really check the information properly.

Apparently their children were Arthur James and Thomas Harold.

If someone would be willing to help with shipping list info and links to where I can point him in the right direction for images which may have more info that would be fantastic :)

Regards,

Patricia
Title: Re: MURGATROYD, Arthur James, wife Florence - from UK to South Africa and return
Post by: JJen on Thursday 25 April 19 20:14 BST (UK)
Name - Florence Margatroyd
Arrival Age - 47
Port of Departure:   Durban, South Africa
Arrival - 30 Jun 1919, Plymouth, England
Ports of Voyage - East London; Port Elizabeth [Algoa Bay]; Cape Town
Ship Name - Kenilworth Castle
Shipping Line - Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd

Travelling with Florence is -
Jas Arthur, 40, Machinist
Jas Arthur, 14
Thos H, 9

JJ
Title: Re: MURGATROYD, Arthur James, wife Florence - from UK to South Africa and return
Post by: JJen on Thursday 25 April 19 20:23 BST (UK)
Master H Murgatroyd
Age - 4
Departure - 29 Aug 1914, London
Destination Port - Natal
Ship Name - Saxon
Shipping Line - The Union-Castle Mail Steamship Co, Ltd

On the same list is -
Mrs F Murgatroyd, Nurse, 42
Master A Murgatroyd, 9

JJ
Title: Re: MURGATROYD, Arthur James, wife Florence - from UK to South Africa and return
Post by: JJen on Thursday 25 April 19 20:27 BST (UK)
Master H Murgatroyd
Arrival Age - 4
Port of Departure - Delagoa Bay, Mozambique
Arrival Date - 3 Jun 1914
Port of Arrival - Southampton
Ports of Voyage - Durban [Natal]; East London; Port Elizabeth [Algoa Bay]; Cape Town; St Helena; Las Palmas; Plymouth, Devon, England
Ship Name - Grantully Castle
Shipping Line - Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd

Florence and Arthur are also on the above ship.

JJ
Title: Re: MURGATROYD, Arthur James, wife Florence - from UK to South Africa and return
Post by: stannarp on Thursday 25 April 19 20:31 BST (UK)
Thanks so much JJ; I really appreciate it!

As a matter of interest, could you PM me where you found records - then I can give him a place to check if he wants to get images for himself :)

Regards,

Patricia
Title: Re: MURGATROYD, Arthur James, wife Florence - from UK to South Africa and return
Post by: pampoen on Monday 01 July 24 14:35 BST (UK)
They must have returned to SA. Here is their graves https://www.graves-at-eggsa.org/main.php?g2_itemId=3576263
                                                       
Title: Re: MURGATROYD, Arthur James, wife Florence - from UK to South Africa and return
Post by: pampoen on Monday 01 July 24 14:44 BST (UK)
The grave of the son James Arthur https://www.graves-at-eggsa.org/main.php?g2_itemId=3576266
Title: Re: MURGATROYD, Arthur James, wife Florence - from UK to South Africa and return
Post by: pampoen on Monday 01 July 24 14:53 BST (UK)
Document 7 of 8
DEPOT     NAB                                                                   
SOURCE    RSC                                                                   
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DESCRIPTION          ILLIQUID CASE. DIVORCE. JAMES ARTHUR MURGATROYD VERSUS ANNIE         
           MURGATROYD (BORN PEARCE).                                           
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Title: Re: MURGATROYD, Arthur James, wife Florence - from UK to South Africa and return
Post by: pampoen on Monday 01 July 24 14:55 BST (UK)
Document 8 of 8
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DESCRIPTION          MURGATROYD, JAMES ARTHUR. ILLIQUID CASE.                             
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REMARKS   DIVORCE. DAPHNE AUDREY MURGATROYD. BORN HOWARD.                       
Title: Re: MURGATROYD, Arthur James, wife Florence - from UK to South Africa and return
Post by: pampoen on Monday 01 July 24 14:56 BST (UK)
Document 6 of 8
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DESCRIPTION          MURGATROYD, CLARA. BORN HARTLEY. BORN IN BRADFORD, YORKSHIRE,         
           ENGLAND. PR/SP MURGATROYD, ARTHUR JAMES. ESTATE NO. 853/1948.       
           DECEASED ESTATE.                                                     
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Title: Re: MURGATROYD, Arthur James, wife Florence - from UK to South Africa and return
Post by: softly softly on Monday 01 July 24 15:00 BST (UK)
Not sure if you have this or even want it.

James Arthur Murgatroyd aged 23 occupation Tram Conductor --father Thomas Lister Murgatroyd occupation Traveller married Florence Young, spinster, aged 30--father Samson Young--land surveyor, 31st March 1902 Bradford.

SS
Title: Re: MURGATROYD, Arthur James, wife Florence - from UK to South Africa and return
Post by: stannarp on Monday 01 July 24 15:41 BST (UK)
Thanks so much! I was posting for a friend, so I will have to go back in my memory banks a while and see if I can remember who wanted the info ???!

Will post if I get any feedback  :)!