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On the certificate it states that Jessie was 'adopted' and we know that she was adopted by her aunt so we assume the certificate is indicating that she was adopted from birth. Is this correct? Any help? Thanks :)
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This is a hand written copy of her original birth certificate written in 2011, because of when the copy was made the annotation is in the same hand, so it doesn't indicate adoption from birth.
I have similar copies for two children which are both annotated adopted, although they were several years old when they were adopted.
There would be a second certificate issued in her new name when she was adopted, there would be no indication of the adoption on the new certificate.
Fairmile House was the workhouse which later became Christchurch Hospital, it was recently demolished and the site redeveloped
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Thankyou Jebber for this insight.
We have always wondered why 'adopted' was written on her birth certificate. We have never found her new birth certificate with her adopted name on (which was 'Rogers').
We are trying to obtain her adoption records (hopefully there are some) to try and gain some insight into the circumstances of her adoption.
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The new birth certificate which would be issued on adoption will not be found in the normal register of births. It will be in the Adopted Children's Register held by the General Register Office to which you should apply should you require a copy. I don't think it will not give you any more information than you already know.
Ray
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Thanks Raybistre, as we already know that she was adopted by her aunt we didn't think that the new certificate would tell us anything.
Hopefully there were some kind of adoption records that may have contained some information as to who her biological father was (perhaps unlikely though) or why she was adopted. Seeing as adoption began to be properly registered and documented in 1927 and she was born in 1930 there should be some kind of documentation.
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http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/tutorials/miscellaneous/adoption-records-after-1927
This link may help.
Adoption was authorised by magistrates court at petty sessions, these records should be in local archives but are closed for 100 years, with the exception that that an adopted person may apply to see their own record.
Mike
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Have you tried looking for christening records? Sometimes, if you are lucky, the entry may read along the lines of "Child, son/dau of Jane Doe, reputedly by Joe Bloggs".
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Hah!
This is so confusing.
My dear little Mum was Jessie's Aunty.
Story goes that Aunty Em, Jessie's mother, brought Jessie home and she stayed with Grandfather and Gran Mathias at 4 Alpine street, where she was known as Nellie Mathias.
After a couple of years Aunty Em died and her sister, my Aunty Nan (Eliza Ann Mathias/Rogers) adopted her and changed her name to Jessie.
It sounds very much as though another family legend bites the dust here. Perhaps they called her Nellie as a nickname as my Mum was still living there and she was Jessie as well.
Don't you just love the ancestors.
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My mother in law was adopted by her uncle and aunt in 1930. I have the original court order approving the adoption. Hers gives details of both parents, however they were married. It gives no details of why the adoption was taking place (we do know the circumstances though). I assume as it was a private adoption within the family, there were no other papers. Maybe if she been in an orphanage there may have been other papers. The court order gives her birth entry number and where the birth was registered, her address and how long she had lived there and the court costs (12 shillings). I am sure if any other papers existed then they would have been kept with the court order and we would have them.
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we assume the certificate is indicating that she was adopted from birth. Is this correct?
The annotation "adopted" is added when the Supt Registrar receives notification from the court that an adoption order has been granted, so it would never be added at the time of registration. Always sometime (months/years) later.