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Hi Guys..
Simple question. Can a NHS number tell you where it was issued?
I know that they were not issued until 1948,and the gentleman I am researching was born in 1940, but i cannot be sure where he was born.
I am grasping at straws !!
JeannieR
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Yes but only within limits.
Pre 1991 NHS nos. were based on the Enumeration District code plus the schedule and sub schedule nos. in the 1939 register. Later codes were modified variations. My ID card no. issued in early '48, does not correspond to the ED code used for the same address in '39, but has the same format.
There is a list of codes but I can't find the URL for them at the moment, sorry.
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The National Health Number only applies to England, Wales and the Isle of Man.
Scotland and Northern Ireland have different systems ;D
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The NHS used the 1939 Register codes:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/1939-register-enumeration-districts
Gadget
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I think that it may help people longer term to explain that there was/is
* a National Health Number NHS No issued around the years already mentioned
( eg mine MABU 99 )
and
* a National Insurance Number NINo ( eg XX nnnnnn V )
Where nnnnnn is straight numeric sequence number eg 123456 and the quarter of the year ( a/b/c/d ) when issued
Temporary numbers " TN ddmmyy x" where payroll processors were originally told to use
"TN" ::) date of birth (ddmmyy) plus the single code for sex "M" or "F"
Originally, meant only to be used to go a little way to help identify a person and until issued with a real NINo
NINo is(was), in effect, your account number ( special note = including your State Pension Fund )
with all those implications.
More recent Health Service Numbers have a format of nnn nnn nnnn.
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The NHS used the 1939 Register codes:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/1939-register-enumeration-districts
Gadget
Thank you Gadget.
I knew it was there somewhere. :)
Just couldn't remember where. I must be getting old. 8)
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The NHS used the 1939 Register codes:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/1939-register-enumeration-districts
Gadget
Thank you Gadget.
I knew it was there somewhere. :)
Just couldn't remember where. I must be getting old. 8)
Until the 1939 came out, I wondered why my number was Zxx!
I can just about remember pre-NHS ;D
PS - I recall from way-back-when that it was a Denbighshire code
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The query is not about a living person.
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Both my husband's and mine begin with a Y,which I understand was a London(Middlesex) code.
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Thank you, Every One.
This gentleman died in the last 10 day's, with no living relatives, in a Residential Home.
We were hoping to come up with something to say about his life,at his funeral ie his parents, where he was born.However the date of birth he gave, and his name,do not tally with where he is said to be born.
NHS 474 103 8289
JeannieR
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It is possible that his mother was an evacuee who later returned home with the baby/young child, who would later say he was born in the place he remembered as a young child but his birth was registered elsewhere and the original NHS no (format XXXX nnn) would have been issued where he was born/his mother lIving at that time.
OR maybe vice versa, he was born, registered, then evacuated and remained there and thought that was where he was born.
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By chance, I was looking at my medical record today and found that my current NHS number is not the one that I remember from previously. A new/more modern number must have been issued, as in this case.
Gadget
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Just found this:
https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/about-the-nhs/what-is-an-nhs-number/
The alphas have now been replaced with all digits!
Gadget
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Just found this:
https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/about-the-nhs/what-is-an-nhs-number/
The alphas have now been replaced with all digits!
Gadget
I believe it happened when they computerised the records in 1991 and stopped using the 1939 Register derive data.