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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: cjackson100 on Wednesday 03 April 19 15:40 BST (UK)
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I am wanting to know if people were christened twice,
I have a Jane Clarke, christened on 28 December 1823 at Potter Hanworth Lincoln to a William Clarke and Maria.
Then there is a Jane Clarke christened on 29 October 1824 Navenby Lincolnshire to a William Clarke and Maria Clarke.
and I was wondering if this is maybe the same Jane Clarke
Regards Christine
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My guess would be that the first Jane died, and another daughter born in 1824 was given her name. Not unheard of :-\
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Thanks for your reply
I have seen that before.
The thing is I am following a Jane Clarke Born at Potter Hanworth, Married at Potter Hanworth and on the 5 census I have for her, her birth place is Potter Hanworth.
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OK - so, have you seen the actual parish register entries for both baptisms (not just a transcription)? I would expect at this date that entries would show an abode plus an occupation for the father, assuming we are talking C of E.
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Have you checked the PRs in both places for the marriages? Couples with similar names.
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Potter Hanworth - 28 December 1827 - Jane daughter of William (Labourer) and Maria of Potter Hanworth.
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Doh :-X
Navenby baptism - Jane, daughter of William (Labourer) and Maria of Navenby
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Hi Thank you for your replys
Unfortunately I am looking at transcripts.
Trying to do a bit of digging for a friend, but its now a race against time, as I am going away next week for a few days and I want to give her this info on her birthday, which is coming up very quickly!!!!
Will just put a question mark at Jane's birth.
Plenty of other stuff to find out and sort
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It is possible for a person to be christened twice.. I have a man who was born on 7.5.1892 and was christened on 19.5.1892 at St James Church Grimsby, and then christened on 27.5.1892 at St Paul's Church Grimsby. I do not know the reason why he was baptised twice.
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There are instances of children being baptised twice. Most probably because, as far as the Church of England was concerned, the first baptism was not lawful, or "all things were not done, as they ought to be" Or the Parish Priest was deliberately kept in ignorance of the first one.
The first question asked at the Public Baptism of Infants in the Book of Common Prayer is "Hath this Child been already Baptized, or no?".Only if the answer is 'no' can the baptism continue. If the answer is 'yes' then the Priest has to examine them further as to the find out if the child was lawfully baptized, and if the Minister shall find by the answers of such as bring the Child that all things were done as they ought to be, then shall not he christen the Child again but shall receive him/her as one of the flock of true christian people."
Stan
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Thanks for All your replies
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I have instances of babies being baptised twice under the following circumstances:
1 A baptism in local Non-Conformist Chapel followed later by a baptism in the CoE Parish Church
2 A baptism in the family's Parish Church followed a week or so later by a baptism in the Parish Church of the village the mother came from originally
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RE 2. I think you may find that the second ceremony was simply the blessing of the newborn at mum's family church.... as per Stan's post ..... clergy cannot Christen again BUT CAN publically bless and thus receive the baby into the faithful ........
Such a blessing ceremony would likely be entered by the clergy in his parish register.
So two entries, but one actual baptism.
Re 1. My elderly rellie, retired CofE clergy says that a christening by any Protesting denomination ought to have been recognised by CofE and thus a blessing ceremony only and not the full service by the CofE .... but adds it would likely be confusing to recognise the difference just by looking at a parish register .... the difference is in the formal action of the clergy .... whether or not the clergy blesses with or without the font's water...
JM
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These were in the late 1700's / early 1800's and certainly the Parish Register entries looked no different to any other baptism entry -- so no way to tell now exactly what ceremony was performed