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Title: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: NewHudsonRyans on Saturday 30 March 19 15:17 GMT (UK)
I'm trying to figure out the meaning of the attached handwriting.  This is an extract of an 1838 record detailing a charge against Ellen Lynch in the Nenagh Petty Court.

I know it's very unlikely but to me it seems to say "Refuses to make bomb"!

-- Mike
Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 30 March 19 15:20 GMT (UK)
Sorry to lower the tone but is it "vomit"  :-\

Is it a medical document?
Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: josey on Saturday 30 March 19 15:35 GMT (UK)
Is the same charge made against anyone else on the record?

Refuses to make 'Bounds' ie fences or boundaries possibly stockproof?
Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 30 March 19 15:42 GMT (UK)



What is she charged with?


Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: Maiden Stone on Saturday 30 March 19 16:25 GMT (UK)
It does look like bomb.
Bounty?
Could it be bound? E.g. Refused to be bound over to be of good behaviour.
This was around the time of the Tithe War when people refused to pay tithes and had their goods seized. Unrest and violence was a consequence in some places. Is there anything in local newspaper?
Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: NewHudsonRyans on Saturday 30 March 19 18:11 GMT (UK)
The clerk at this time had very bad handwriting.  The later clerks for this court write a lot more legibly.

Also I think some semantic content is lost via digitizing.  It's hard to see variances in the pen's stroke pressure, making it hard to distinguish between valid letters and scribbles.

It's not a bad idea to cross-check the Nenagh Guardian newspaper against this record.

Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: Dexter 18 on Saturday 30 March 19 19:44 GMT (UK)
Confesses to make Bomb I reckon
Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: Dexter 18 on Saturday 30 March 19 20:41 GMT (UK)
Refuses to make Bonds ??
Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 30 March 19 21:06 GMT (UK)
I tried looking in the newspapers earlier but couldn't see anything, the exact date would help, some of the print is so poor the search could miss it but you could browse if you had the date.
Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: NewHudsonRyans on Sunday 31 March 19 17:52 BST (UK)
I tried looking in the newspapers earlier but couldn't see anything, the exact date would help, some of the print is so poor the search could miss it but you could browse if you had the date.

The court record is dated August 18, 1839.

I found a similar record for someone else at the bottom of the page.  It really does look to say "refuses to make bounds".

Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 31 March 19 17:55 BST (UK)





What is she charged with?





Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: dathai on Sunday 31 March 19 19:46 BST (UK)
could it be by any chance ''refuses to make bonnets ''
Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 31 March 19 19:56 BST (UK)
Looking at the 21 Aug 1839 there was a couple serious assaults which take up all of the report on the Petty Session, it just finishes with "The Court than moved on to civil business, of which there was many cases for disposal." she's likely one of them.
Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: NewHudsonRyans on Sunday 31 March 19 20:46 BST (UK)
Looking at the 21 Aug 1839 there was a couple serious assaults which take up all of the report on the Petty Session, it just finishes with "The Court than moved on to civil business, of which there was many cases for disposal." she's likely one of them.

Sinann, do you use IrishNewspaperArchives to gain access to the Nenagh Guardian?  I had a subscription but let it lapse recently.

-- Mike
Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 31 March 19 22:17 BST (UK)
Yes
Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: Wexflyer on Monday 01 April 19 03:54 BST (UK)
"Refuses to make brunch"
Clearly criminal.
Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: hallmark on Monday 01 April 19 04:11 BST (UK)



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Title: Re: Interpreting handwriting in Nenagh Petty Court record
Post by: hallmark on Monday 01 April 19 04:14 BST (UK)



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