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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: AustraliaJack on Friday 29 March 19 06:38 GMT (UK)
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Hi all
Im interested in a Catherine wolfe who was the wife of robert wolfe and they were married in 1900 and live on a farm at kodj kodjin near kellerberrin wa . I am mainly interested in any children she may have had during her time at kodj kodjin .
Thanks in advance
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Hi,
Had a quick look but seems all children were born in New Zealand before they married in Australia.
Cheers,
Sherryl
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Western Australia marriage index
Wolfe Robert Tennant Stow and Whyte Vivian Maude Perth 1891
Wolfe Robert Tennant Stow and West Catherine Wilkinson Perth 1900
Wolfe Robert T S and Hughes Joan S Northam 1914
A newspaper article on the divorce of Robert and Catherine makes no mention of kids. I cant find births neither. Not to say there were no kids as the WA birth index has a lot of births with no parents names so makes it hard to search.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/208699521
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Just incase your tree goes back to James Robertson Wolfe, (1820) Dalry, Scotland, my husband is a direct descendant!
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Hi,
Had a quick look but seems all children were born in New Zealand before they married in Australia.
Cheers,
Sherryl
Robert Travers WOLFE also with wife Catherine not to be confused with R T S WOLFE.
The Albany Advertiser (WA : 1897 - 1954) Monday 25 February 1935 p 1 Family Notices... Catherine Wolfe, relict of Robert Travers Wolfe.........(married NZ reg. 1876/3247)
WOLFE.--On December 6. 1937. at Gosnells, Lieut. Robert Tenant Stowe Wolfe (formerly of Woolwich. England). late of Kellerberrin and Wheatley-street. Gosnells. loving father of James and Irene; aged 80 years.
Rhonda
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I believe Catherine Wolfe was nee HARPER
She is the sister of Charles HARPER.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/26250672
In the divorce proceedings she is recorded as going to her mother Mrs HARPER.
Catherine became WEST.
Here is a marriage of a daughter who was born well beforel the marriage to Robert WOLFE.
West Irene A
Denny Charles M
Perth /511 /1909
Here described as the daughter of Mr and Mrs WOLFE
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/37408589
During this description of the intrusion into her home She calls for her boy of 14.Again born well before the marriage to Wolfe.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/91005459
Robert' divorce from his previous wife late 1898
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/82396138
Sue
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Hi AustraliaJack
At no stage was there any indication of children for Catherine and Robert WOLFE.
RE.....Catherine HARPER/WEST/WOLFE
I traced Catherine with another marriage (and her death) in Queensland from her mother's death notice.
The West Australian (Friday 30 September )
HARPER — On September 27, 1927, at St. John of God Hospital, Elizabeth, beloved mother of Catherine Christie (Queensland) and Charles Harper, Victoria Park WA.
Catherine Wilkinson WOLFE
Date: 25 March 1918
Spouse: Albert CHRISTIE
Marriage registration: 1918/C/856
Catherine Wilkinson CHRISTIE
Date: 27 July 1931
Death registration: 1931/C/2800
BUT, these “parents” named on the D.C.were actually those of Robert Tennant Stow WOLFE
Mother's name: Isabella Stone (STOW)
Father/parent's name: Robert Thomas WOLFE
The newspaper report of the WOLFE divorce indicated Catherine was mentally unstable. So, what story did the next poor husband hear?
Rhonda
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I suspect Catherine and the co-respondent went to Qld together.
Electoral Roll QLD 1917 and 1919
HART Ernest. Avondale Farmer. Musgrove
HART, Catherine Wilkinson. Same address. HD
Sue
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Irene, the daughter, remarried in WA after the sudden death of her husband.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/83704160
DENNY Irene A to PITT Frank K
At Perth
REG 1809
1936
Sue
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Winton Cemetery Qld. https://billiongraves.com/grave/Catherine-Wilkinson-Harper-Christie/19701505
Catherine Wilkinson Christie (Harper)
Born: 6 Apr 1868
Died: 27 Jul 1931
Daughter of Richard John Harper & Elizabeth Wilkinson. Wife of William John West, Robert Tennant Stow Wolfe & Albert Christie. Mother of Irene Alexandra West 06 Dec 1889 - 13 Sept 1962
Also Irene Alexandra West
Buried here
6 Dec 1889 - 13 Sep 1962
??? KENWICK PIONEER CEMETERY http://www.australiancemeteries.com.au/wa/gosnells/kenwickpioneerdata.htm
Grave Number 40
PITT, Irene Alexandra (nee West)
06/12/1889 – 13/09/1962 aged 72 years
Place of Birth: Melbourne Victoria
Spouse: (1) Charles Maynard DENNY (2) Frank Kermode PITT
Grave Number 40
PITT, Frank Kermode ashes in family grave
1866 – 17/12/1956 aged 90 years
Spouse: Irene Alexandra West
“In Loving Memory of
Frank Kermode Pitt
Licensed Surveyor 1866 – 1956
Much love by his stepchildren”
“In Loving Memory of
Irene Alexandra Pitt
Died 13th Sept 1962 Aged 72 years
And her daughter
Mildred Roslyn Denny
Died 18th March 1938 Aged 18 years.”
Church of England Grave Number 40
DENNY, Charles Maynard
08/07/1932 aged 66 years
“In Loving Memory of my dear Father
Lieut. Robert Tennant Stow Wolfe.
Died 6th Dec. 1937 Aged 80 years At Rest
Also
Charles Maynard Denny
Late Surveyor of Lands and Surveys Dept. Perth.
Eldest son of the late J. T. Denny
Manager of the Union Bank,
Born at Portland Victoria
Died 8th July 1932”
Grave Number 40
DENNY, Mildred Roslyn
24/11/1921 – 18/03/1938 aged 18 years
Father: Charles Maynard DENNY
Mother: Irene Alexandra WEST
“In Loving Memory of
Irene Alexandra Pitt
Died 13th Sept 1962 Aged 72 years
And her daughter
Mildred Roslyn Denny
Died 18th March 1938 Aged 18 years.”
Church of England Grave Number 40
WOLFE, Robert Tennant Stowe (Lieut)
1857 – 06/12/1937 aged 80 years
Place of Birth: South Africa
Came to WA with the Durack family.
“In Loving Memory of my dear Father
Lieut. Robert Tennant Stowe Wolfe.
Died 6th Dec. 1937 Aged 80 years At Rest
Also
Charles Maynard Denny
Late Surveyor of Lands and Surveys Dept. Perth.
Eldest son of the late J. T. Denny
Manager of the Union Bank,
Born at Portland Victoria
ROBINSON, Dorothy Katherine
03/03/1979 aged 67 years
Father: Charles Maynard DENNY
Mother: Irene Alexandra WEST
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Robert-Tennant-Stow-Wolfe/4650812
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Just to further round out thefamily, here is the death of "Mrs Oliver" who was the sister of Catherine's mother and is referred to in the divorce proceedings as a "businesss woman"
I wanted to know the maiden name of Catherine's mother ---seeking the WEST connection---(which we now have to some extent ??? per MI from C o L)
Death in Victoria
OLIVER Annie
Father Jno WILKINSON
Mother Margaret unknown
At S. Hills
Aged 70
1921/15906
The bequests of Annie Oliver who died in 1921 included Charles and Barbara HARPER and Elizabeth HARPER. Relationship not stated. Charles chn also seem to be included
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/82026755
For your interest I will add this story of the monument to Lillian HARPER, the sister of Charles and Catherinewho was lost at sea and her mother Elizabeth is in court 1912
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/79905324
Sue
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Here the birth of Irene.
Irene Alexr WEST
At Melbourne, Victoria
Year 1889
Father Jno Wm West
Mother Katie Wilkinson Harper
33324
Sue
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Vic marriages 2359 / 1888 Katie Wilkinson HARPER and John William WEST
Richard John HARPER (b:1842) married Elizabeth WILKINSON on 15th Apr 1867 Abersychan, Monmouthshire, Wales https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCTB-WV7
Birth: Catherine Wilkinson HARPER born June qty 1868 Pontypool 11a 134
baptism: 19 March 1868 Abersychan, Monmouthshire, Wales
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCTB-Q2W
1871 Census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDZB-5LY
HARPER Richard J Head 39 b Trevethin Butcher
HARPER Elizabeth Wife 26 b Trevethin
HARPER Catherine Dau 2 b Trevethin
HARPER Charles son 1 b Trevethin
Possible Birth: Mar qty 1870 Charles HARPER Pontypool 11a 133
baptism: 02 Feb 1870 Abersychan, Monmouthshire, Wales
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCTB-QL8
Possible Birth: Charles Henry HARPER born Mar qty 1871 Pontypool 11a 146
baptism: 19 March 1871 Abersychan, Monmouthshire, Wales
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCTB-QL1
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Deleted messy typing ;D
Sue
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WOLFE.--On December 6. 1937. at Gosnells, Lieut. Robert Tenant Stowe Wolfe (formerly of Woolwich. England). late of Kellerberrin and Wheatley-street. Gosnells. loving father of James and Irene; aged 80 years.
Rhonda
Robert married again after his divorce from Catherine.
WOLFE Robert T S
HUGHES Joan S
Northam 59/1914
She was a good deal younger.
Her death in 1932 mentions her 2 children, Joan and Jim.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/32633855
Her name was Joan Sylvia and she is buried in the RC section of Karrakatta.
Her last address was Cottesloe.
Sue
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Amazing people all who contributed in the search you have given me a incredible amount of information to look into
Thanks again
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Here the birth of Irene.
Irene Alexr WEST
At Melbourne, Victoria
Year 1889
Father Jno Wm West
Mother Katie Wilkinson Harper
33324
Sue
Is this possibly a child of Catherine?
Vic births: 28209 / 1887 HARPER, William Jarvis
Mother: Kate HARPER
Father: Unknown
Place of event: FITZ, Australia
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During this description of the intrusion into her home She calls for her boy of 14.Again born well before the marriage to Wolfe.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/91005459
Sue
Looking again at the above news item, I searched further descriptions of the event.
This item states the 14 year old boy was white.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/148618571
[It is unclear whether he was related to her, or an employee etc.]
And that the intruder's name was CHAMPION.
AustraliaJack is interested in the name CHAMPION per his other current thread.
Sue
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So i have decided to try and upload this to see if we can make out the writing
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Other post about deciphering that image
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=810884.
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I am thinking this is a snip of a death certificate?
Looking at the words Jim Champion, I do see a lot of similarity in the formation of the letters m and n in the particular words you are trying to decipher.The last of that group of 3 words may be woman.
So ?? wh. woman
I see the symbol in high left corner for gender male.
I see est. 75 yrs
Sharks Bay WA
Sue
ADDING
May be a stretch of interpretation powers here, :P BUT
Possibly just above the n in Champion I see the letters fb which may be full blood ::)
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I am fairly sure that the 'not equal to' symbol on that uploaded document is to indicate that there was a common law marriage between the un-named woman and Jim Champion, in other words, not a formal marriage.
What is the significance of the N2136 number?
JM