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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: bolton on Tuesday 26 March 19 08:17 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I am trying to find out about Charles William Davis. Born 1832 Camberwell London
Father John Davis
Charles William Davis is not in any census before he gets married 22 Feb 1864 holy trinity church st Phillips Bristol Glos to Rosina Cole
On the marriage certificate he says his father was John Davis brides father was Thomas Hamans Cole
Of the st Phillips Marsh a Bristol potter the Cole family pottery at st Phillips Marsh
Our first records of Charles William Davis is in 1871 where he is living with Rosina and her mother
And two of Charles and Rosin’s children
But why can’t we find his birth records he says he was born in 1832 Camberwell Surrey
Father John Davis
Any help would be wonderful.
Regards Chris
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what occupation is given for John, father of Charles William?
There is a possible baptism 12 Dec 1832 in Camberwell for Charles William Davis son of John, merchant, and Martha of Newington.
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As he was born before Civil registration started in 1837, you are reliant on parish registers for a christening, if indeed he was christened.
It could be hard to find for a variety of reasons e.g
1) He was never christened, maybe his family were non-conformist
2) He was christened when older, not as a new born
3) He was christened somewhere else other than Camberwell, eg went back to mothers home parish for the ceremony.
4) The actual parish in Camberwell where he was chr soes not have its records online
5) The entry in the PRs is worn, faded, missing etc and so there is no transcription (if you are not working from originals)
6) Probably a whole host of reasons I havent thought of!!!
But whilst I have been typing all this - osprey has been on the case!!
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what occupation is given for John, father of Charles William?
There is a possible baptism 12 Dec 1832 in Camberwell for Charles William Davis son of John, merchant, and Martha of Newington.
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Possible brother is Richard Owen Davis born 18 June 1827 & baptised 29 July 1827 at St Mary Newington, son of John (gentleman, of Kennington Lane, Lambeth) and Martha.
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1841 1064 book 3 pg 1
John Davis 45 yrs Wine Merchant
Martha Davis 40 yrs
Charles Davis 8 yrs
These are transcribed on one site but there are also other children
Frederick G 5yrs
John 2 yrs
In 1851
Frederick G Davis 15 yrs is an Apprentice Copying Clerk
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Possibly the same Martha is widowed by 1851 and in Milton by Gravesend (54 b Newington) with a son Samuel (24 b Lambeth). Richard O Davis, 22, is also in Gravesend but separately.
Martha is with Richard, still in Gravesend, in 1861, and they are both still there (not together) in 1871.
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Hi
A very big thank you to ll who helped
I thought his parents were John Davis and Elizabeth Martha Martin
So with your help looks like this is the family.
Thanks again Chris
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think this should be on this post
topic merged
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I have already asked to Mods to merge it :)
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would be good to know occupation of father on marriage certificate...