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Title: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: melia on Tuesday 12 March 19 14:03 GMT (UK)
Looking for a SUSAN LATHLEAN supposedly born about 1844 in Bunmahon.
Which churches would i look at for her baptism and also her marriage in 1864.
If i have it right right she married a John Noble who was born in Cornwall.
Trying to confirm i have the right people as all his family stayed in Cornwall.
Melia
Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 14:17 GMT (UK)



Probably a Church of her Religion.
Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 14:20 GMT (UK)



Civil Reg  Birth, Marriage and Death results for LATHLEAN, anywhere, any time!


 Marriage of ELIZABETH ANNE LATHLEAN
in 1862
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Waterford
Returns Year   1862
Returns Quarter   1
Returns Volume No   10
Returns Page No   498



https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 12 March 19 15:15 GMT (UK)
John Noble son of John
Susan dtr of John Latlear at Monksland
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG8B-9FQ


There is a John Latlane on Griffiths Valuations at Ballynasissala leasing from the Mining Co of Ireland a House,Office and small piece of land
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ni3/

Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 12 March 19 15:23 GMT (UK)
Though this tree says his father is James Noble
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/K2Q9-W4H
Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 12 March 19 16:01 GMT (UK)
Just be aware there is a John Noble in Peter Street,South Side,Parish of St Peters,Waterford on Griffiths Valuations 1851
Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 12 March 19 16:08 GMT (UK)
Reply 2 by Hallmark

Elizabeth Ann married Miles Adams

had a daughter Fanny 1865 father an Ore Dresser
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03581/2320240.pdf

they appear to have ended up in Mintaro ,South Australia
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3HG9-431
Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: melia on Tuesday 12 March 19 18:42 GMT (UK)
so i have come across the marriage on familysearch and some other websites , myheritage and Geni have the same.
22 Oct 1864 Monksland, Kilmacthomas, Ireland. And it says father of John Noble is a John Noble.

also come across websites that say his father was James Noble as in the family tree at familysearch mentioned above. James Noble in Gwinear, Cornwall is an ancestor in our family tree. He has son John who disappears after the 1851 census.
I have managed to work out that a John Noble and Susan arrived in South Australia in 1865 and followed the family from there.

What would be helpful is if anyone could actually see the transcript of Susan's marriage to see who Johns father actually is.

Some of the family history websites have contributors saying Susans father was born in Cornwall but i do wonder if they have the wrong John Lathlean. Or the family moved to Ireland. I am still working on finding the proof for all this.
Melia
Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 19:18 GMT (UK)




Religion??





Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 19:21 GMT (UK)




grrr   1862 and a  Cert....so not R.C




Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 19:39 GMT (UK)
so i have come across the marriage on familysearch and some other websites , myheritage and Geni have the same.
22 Oct 1864 Monksland, Kilmacthomas, Ireland. And it says father of John Noble is a John Noble.

 





Registers for this parish were in PROI in 1922 during fire and were thus not saved




Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 19:45 GMT (UK)




records of Monksland Lismore Waterford B. 1836-1878 M. 1837-1875 Bur.  1836-1878 remain in local custody.
Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 12 March 19 19:46 GMT (UK)
you could purchase a photocopy of the marriage cert for 4euro
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ni6/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ni7/

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/i-want-to-get-a-copy-of-a-certificate-what-do-i-do
Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: melia on Tuesday 12 March 19 19:53 GMT (UK)
oh thats typical burnt in a fire.

There are two entries on Ancestry.com that appear to be scanned photos of their marriage. I am not a member of this though so unfortunately i cant view them.
Not sure where they have got it from !!!

Thanks dathai, for those links. if i cant find anything will have to look into purchasing the certificate
Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 19:57 GMT (UK)




Monksland records exist... Kilmac don't!!
Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 19:58 GMT (UK)






records of Monksland
Lismore Waterford B. 1836-1878 M. 1837-1875 Bur.  1836-1878 remain in local custody.




Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 20:22 GMT (UK)
so i have come across the marriage on familysearch 
22 Oct 1864 Monksland, Kilmacthomas, Ireland. 

 



So why not post a Link to it??



Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 12 March 19 20:26 GMT (UK)
John and Jane Noble both born Gwinear,Cornwall 1840 and 1843 parents John Noble and Mary Goninan

Jane married Nicholas Curry, Stradbally 1864 possibly Catholic ?
son William 1864 also born Ballynasissla
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03613/2333365.pdf

moved to Scotland
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3KTY-3DF


Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 20:32 GMT (UK)




reckon you are probably looking for the records of Monksland Lismore Waterford which is in Kilmacthomas Registration District!!
Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 20:47 GMT (UK)
John and Jane Noble both born Gwinear,Cornwall 1840 and 1843 parents John Noble and Mary Goninan

Jane married Nicholas Curry, Stradbally 1864 possibly Catholic ?
son William 1864 also born Ballynasissla
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03613/2333365.pdf

moved to Scotland
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3KTY-3DF




Stradbally    https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1093


IF she was R.C!!!




records of Monksland C of I Lismore Waterford B. 1836-1878 M. 1837-1875 Bur.  1836-1878 remain in local custody.



IF she was C of I!!!


You possibly know her Religion, we don't!




Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: melia on Tuesday 12 March 19 21:03 GMT (UK)
I don't know her religion.

If John's father was James it is James and Parnell Noble of Gwinear. And this is right for our tree.

If Johns father was John then it is not the John i am looking for and the people with trees on the web have gone down the wrong tree.

Title: Re: LATHLEAN born Bunmahon, Waterford
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 21:05 GMT (UK)




All you can try is to look for her marriage in R.C register to see if it is there!