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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cheshire => England => Cheshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: PaulaCM on Thursday 07 March 19 17:06 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I'm looking for help tracing my great great grandmother Annie Griffin. From the 1881 census I know that she was born in Birkenhead around 1855. I cannot find her on the 1861 or 1871 census though. Any one any ideas or maybe someone can spot something I've missed.
Thank you.
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Could you please give the census reference for her in 1881
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Hi,
I can see her on 1871 census at 7 Charles Street Birkenhead age 17 as a visitor in the house of Noah and Josephine Roberts, Noah age 31, Josephine 29. Also there is Noah's mother in law Mary Williams age 55. Ancestry has her surname showing as Griffice but it is Griffin on the census sheet.
Alan
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Who is she with in 1881?
Do you know who her father or mother were?
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Going along the Noah and Josephine route found by Alan we have in 1861
William Williams 43
Mary Williams 43
Josephine Williams 20
Anne Griffin 1 nurse child born Birkenhead
Bit of a leap from 1 to 17 in 10 years though.
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Hi,
It looks like Annie was living in Liverpool when she was married there in 1878 to John Sanderson. 1881 census has her back living in Birkenhead age 28 with husband and family. Marriage certificate has her father as Thomas Griffin (deceased).Presumably 1861 census should have shown her age as 7 not 1 (transcription error?)
There is a birth of an Anna Griffin in Wirral Mar Qtr 1854 8a/402 on Free BMD - could this be her?
Alan
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Yes should be 7 but it does look like 1 and the nurse child bit threw me as I thought it literally meant nursing a child and you would do that with a younger child.
But maybe it was just how she was described in lieu of any other relationship.
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Thank you all so much for your help. It is very much appreciated.
Apparently a nurse child was like a foster child.
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There is a birth of an Anna Griffin in Wirral Mar Qtr 1854 8a/402 on Free BMD - could this be her?
Mother's maiden name was Rich per GRO index.
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Hi Sean J
That's interesting. It could be her. I can't find it though. Did you go through ancestry.com?
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Tall Al found that birth on Free BMD. I looked it up in the online GRO index to find the mmn.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
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Hi,
I can't see a marriage between a "Griffin" and a "Rich" which fits the bill and whilst this is a total guess, there is a Mary Ann Rich (baptised in Liverpool in 1835) who lived in Liverpool in 1851 but by 1861 was living on the Wirral with her widowed father Joseph. She appears to have remained unmarried.
I just wondered if she possibly might have had a relationship with Thomas Griffin in 1853/54 at the tender age of 18 or so which resulted in the birth of Annie/Anna Griffin?
Alan
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Hi,
Courtesy of Familysearch.org
Anne Griffin
England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000
Name: Anne Griffin
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 20 Jul 1854, 20 Jul 1854
Event Place: , Claughton-cum-Grange, Cheshire, England
Gender: Female
Father's Name: James Griffin
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Claughton cum Grange is part of Birkenhead. Couldn't locate a marriage for James Griffin & Rebecca
Ray
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Hi,
Good spot Ray - looks like that Ann/Annie's father was James not Thomas.
Alan
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Thanks again everyone.
Both the Rich connection and the James Griffin and Rebecca connection are very interesting.
I wonder why she put Thomas on her marriage cert. Having said that, I've come across two other ancestors who put the wrong fathers name on marriage cert. I believe that the reason one did it was because he thought his grandfather was his father.