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Title: PUGH: Bishops Castle 1720-1760
Post by: Pugh66 on Wednesday 27 February 19 13:32 GMT (UK)
I hope someone may be able to help. I'm seeking information on the Pugh family of Bishop's Castle around the years 1720-1760.

I am a Pugh who lives in South Yorkshire and 10 Years ago my father (now 85) said to me “you know, we have a Welsh name, I was born and bread in Sheffield like your grandfather and I have no knowledge of anyone in my family every being Welsh”.  So this has been my quest for a number of years now to find the first member of my family to come from Wales before my dad leaves us.

So far I have traced my dads ancestry from Sheffield, South Yorkshire to Bishop Castle with (I believe) confirmed ancestry up to Walter Pugh (b 25 Feb 1767, Bishops Castle / d Mar 1850, Montgomeryshire) who on 09 May 1789 at St John the Baptist Church, Bishop's Castle married Mary Higgins (b 19 Feb 1766, Bishops Castle).   I have managed to trace family to Bishops Castle but I have not managed to get that last mile or so over the border into Wales.

I believe maybe Walter’s father may be the missing link, I think he is Humphrey Pugh who married Elizabeth who’s maiden name may also have been Pugh at St John the Baptist Church, Bishop's Castle on 01/06/1764.  If anyone can help or point me in the right direction it would be appreciated.  Ideally I would like to identify Humphrey's date and place of birth and if possible his parents if he was not born in Wales.

THANK YOU FOR ANY HELP!

If it helps, this is what I have... 

... yet to be confirmed
Humphrey Pugh (b.1744 approx.) - Elizabeth (Married 01/06/1764 Bishop Castle)
Children: 
Edward (b.1765)
WALTER (b.1767 Bishop Castle)
Humphrey (b.1769)
Mary   (b.1771 - d.1776)
Elizabeth (b.1773)
Martha (b.1775-d.1775)
Susanah (b.1775)
Maurice (b.1779)


Walter Pugh (b 1767) - Mary Higgins (Married 09/05/1789 Bishop Castle)
Children:
Maurice (b.1790)
Mary   (b.1791)
William (b.1794)
Walter (b.1796)
HUMPHREY (b.1803 Bishop Castle)
Sarah Pugh (b.1804)
Anne (b.1807)

Humphrey Pugh (b 1803) - Anne Jones (Married 28/09/1826 Bishop Castle)
Children: 
Eliza (b.1831)
Mariah (b.1831)
WALTER (b.1835 Bishop Castle)
Jane (b.1838)
Maria (b.1838)

WALTER left Bishop Castle and became a steel foundry man who travelled to find work; married, started a family in Birmingham moving to Leeds, Nr Chesterfield, Barnsley and eventually settling in Sheffield.


Walter Pugh (b.1835) - Mary M. (b.1840 Birmingham, Warwickshire)
Children: 
Joseph W. (b.1863 - Birmingham)
JOHN HUMPHREY (b.1864 - d.1920 Sheffield)
Elizabeth J (b.1866 New Whittington, Derbyshire)
Maurice (b.1869 Barnsley)
Charles A. (b.1870 Sheffield)
Annie M (b.1873 Sheffield)
Emma L. (b.1875 Sheffield)
Albert R. (b.1877 Sheffield)
Amelia B. (b.1879 Sheffield, Yorkshire)

John Humphrey (b.1864 - d.1920) - Ellen (b 1864)
Children: 
Anne (b.1895)
BERNARD (b.1896 - d.1984 Sheffield)
Ada (b.1898)
Nellie (b.1901)
Title: Re: PUGH: Bishops Castle 1720-1760
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 27 February 19 13:37 GMT (UK)
Will this do  :-\

Humphrey Pugh
Baptism    27 Jan 1744
Dolgellau, Merionethshire
Father Owen
Mother Mary

ADDED
You may want to discount him though
Humphrey Pugh
Elizabeth Roberts
Marriage    18 Oct 1782
Dolgellau
Title: Re: PUGH: Bishops Castle 1720-1760
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 27 February 19 15:26 GMT (UK)
As Humphrey & Elizabeth had a son Maurice I would suspect the family were still in Bishops Castle area in the mid 1600's as there was a Maurice baptising children there then and the name was not that common.
Title: Re: PUGH: Bishops Castle 1720-1760
Post by: Viktoria on Wednesday 27 February 19 15:47 GMT (UK)
Try the Shropshire Board,they may be able to help.
There was a Shropshire family of Pughs living near Snailbeach,
On the tops of the Stiperstones range .
Blakemore Flat and Blakemore Gate.
Probably not related but you never know.
This was 1900s when I found them as married to my blood relatives.
The area often comes under Forden.
Viktoria.
Title: Re: PUGH: Bishops Castle 1720-1760
Post by: Pugh66 on Thursday 28 February 19 09:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the quick response, I'll look into those suggestions.

Thanks again
Title: Re: PUGH: Bishops Castle 1720-1760
Post by: Alberbury on Tuesday 05 March 19 20:40 GMT (UK)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=IFJiAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA40&lpg=PA40&dq=walter+pugh+bishops+castle&source=bl&ots=EnY1Ey2qzj&sig=ACfU3U0He-AXKz0oKUhrXHZKocba1ePi_g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjd14vk6-vgAhUpRxUIHbwlCwsQ6AEwAnoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=walter%20pugh%20bishops%20castle&f=false

A correct alphabetical list of the freeholders who voted, also of those who ...
By SHROPSHIRE.


FREEHOLDERS WHO VOTED, 1831.    Page 40.

Pugh Francis, Bishop's Castle, carpenter
Pugh Richard, Bishop's Castle, carpenter
Pugh Walter, Bishop's Castle, tailor
Pugh William, Bishop's Castle, baker

18 Pugh's are listed.


Title: Re: PUGH: Bishops Castle 1720-1760
Post by: Alberbury on Tuesday 05 March 19 21:10 GMT (UK)
http://www.selectsurname.com/pugh.html

England.  The Pugh name extended across the border into England.  The largest numbers in the 1881 census were in Shropshire.  One early line there began with the birth of John Pugh in Shrewsbury in 1616.  Walter Pugh was born at Bishop’s Castle on the Welsh border in 1767; while Thomas Pugh was born at Stottesdon near Cleobury Mortimer around 1790. 
Title: Re: PUGH: Bishops Castle 1720-1760
Post by: Alberbury on Tuesday 05 March 19 21:14 GMT (UK)
http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Edgton.html    12 Pugh's are listed.

Edgton is a parish, five miles north-east from Bishop's Castle, in the diocese of Hereford, rural deanery of Clun, and hundred of Purslow. It includes the townships of Horderley formerly extra-parochial), Brownslow, and Ridgeway. The parish contains 1,652 acres, and the population in 1881 was 223.


1730, Jan. 18. John, s. of Walter Pugh and Ann ... bap.
Title: Re: PUGH: Bishops Castle 1720-1760
Post by: Alberbury on Tuesday 05 March 19 21:21 GMT (UK)
https://www.myprimitivemethodists.org.uk/content/people-2/lay-people/surnames-beginning-with-p/william_ashley_pugh_jp

Alderman W.A. Pugh, J.P., is a Primitive Methodist of the second generation. All his life has been spent at Bishop’s Castle where he is honoured and loved. As a local preacher he is ever welcome. He is no orator, but there is a quiet force and a sweet reasonableness about his utterances. The cultured note is there, and clearer still the strain of the Evangel. For many years, Mr. Pugh has been a Sunday School Superintendent, and he believes profoundly that the best Christian strategy is to capture the young. As Circuit steward he is faithful, courteous and progressive. He is convinced that a parsimonious Circuit policy is suicidal.
Title: Re: PUGH: Bishops Castle 1720-1760
Post by: Alberbury on Tuesday 05 March 19 21:26 GMT (UK)
http://search.shropshirehistory.org.uk/collections/search/?q=Pugh+Bishops+Castle&cb_submit=Search

Pugh Bishop's Castle

http://search.shropshirehistory.org.uk/collections/search/?q=Walter+Pugh&cb_submit=Search

Walter Pugh
Title: Re: PUGH: Bishops Castle 1720-1760
Post by: asuitandty on Tuesday 05 April 22 09:23 BST (UK)
I am the son of Heidi Underhill, daughter of Joan Pugh, daughter of John H Pugh and Dorothy Weaver. I may be able to help with some questions as well.