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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: wolly on Tuesday 26 February 19 01:00 GMT (UK)
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Hi I believe my gggranfather was born in Bridewell precinct Hospital middlesex in 1826 or lived there at a later date and would like to know how I can get a record of his birth his names is james henry wollaston, but believed he went under the name of henry wollaston, he was born on 26 july 1826, born to an Elizabeth Naylor who we believe was 10yrs old at the time, I have a cencus for him under the name of henry wollaston in the 1841 census , naming the Blackfriars hotel new Bridge st, it being an istitution hope you can help many thanks wolly
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The Henry WOLLASTON at St Bride's in 1841 is a 15 year old apprentice surgeon in the home of Charles HOLDING a surgeon of 13 New Bridge Street. The ages have been rounded down so Henry could be older than 15.
Perhaps you can give some information about your Henry's later life.
Civil registration of births, deaths, and marriages did not commence until 1837.
Debra :)
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Birth registrations in England began in 1837 so he would not have had a birth certificate. You'll need to look for a baptism for him. Where did you get his place of birth from?
How did you calculate the age of his mother, Elizabeth Naylor? She was extremely unlikely to have been 10 years old when she gave birth to him. Are you sure you have the correct mother and son combination? Did you get her age from 1841 census? Ages of people 15+ on that census were supposed to be rounded down to a multiple of 5. Have you found either of them on 1851 census or later?
Why was Elizabeth's surname Naylor and James Henry's surname Wollaston?
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Henry Wollaston at 13 New Bridge St Blackfriars (not at the hotel) states "no" - not born in Middlesex
Suz
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I think you have the mother a little muddled
Parish Records St Mary Islington
No 689
James Henry Wollaston
born 26 July 1826
Baptised 22 Jun 1832
parents Henry Francis & Elizabeth
address Queen Sfather;s occ Merchants Clerk
there is a marriage Henry Francis Wollaston esquire
Elizabeth Naylor
7 Aug 1839 Weald Essex
Possibly James Henry's mother was a different Elizabeth to Elizabeth Naylor
Maybe James Henry's mother Elizabeth died and his father remarried to another Elizabeth??
I can find Henry Francis and Elizabeth in 1841 in Surrey with a 5mth old son Frederick
1851 they are visiting Naylor family in Hampshire
so you need to look for a marriage of Henry Francis to an Elizabeth pre 1826
Suz
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we have all the revelent material except mnothers name why we say her name was naylor because James (Henry 's) father was Henry francis wollaston and Henry francis married Elizabeth Naylor the families were well known to each other and the wollaston book states that Henry Francis had an illigitamate child, mothers name has never been mentioned , there were 2 Elizabeth Naylors one daughter of edward naylor b: 1814 who was in the navy in Portsea and the other Elizabeth b: 1816 to Oliver naylor brother of Edward married Henry Francis the first Elizabeth daughter of Edward we have a birth cert but no marriage or death its very compicated
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I don't think the Henry Wollaston you refer to in 1841 is your man.
When James Henry married in 1846 he was a Carpenter and a surgeon's apprentice not likely to have been a carpenter 5 years later.
I think JH in 1841 is the James Wollaston 14 Carpenters Apprentice who is in Finsbury with a David Anderson, carpenter and builder.
Annette
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Who did Elizabeth say her father was when she married Henry Francis?
Debra :)
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Elizabeth s father was Oliver Naylor that is what its on the marriage cert, where was the other census that sounds more pheasable, a cousin of mine found the other one ,
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The 1841 reference is at Class: HO107; Piece: 664; Book: 9; Folio: 11; Page: 17
St Mary Islington East.
Debra :)
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Thank you I managed to get it up on Find my past it could be the right one as I noticed the street was queens st , which his father did live on , many thanks for all your help , still love to know who his mum was tho wolly
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The census states that Elizabeth (nee Naylor) was b.1816 Camden Town and the marriage certificate gives her father as Oliver so this is her baptism:
Elizabeth Naylor born 1816, baptised 18/2/1820 Old Church, St. Pancras, dau. of Oliver and Mary.
Annette