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I am trying to trace the family history of James Morison born November 4, 1832 in Burntisland. James migrated to Australia and married Elizabeth Young (born September 5, 1831 in Kilwinning, Ayrshire) at the Scots Church, Melbourne, Victoria in 1857.
Any information would be much appreciated!
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Burntisland is in Fife not Clackmannan
The only reference i found for him was on LDS and they were not parish extracts,so not very reliable i'm afraid.
This is what i found:
birth 04 NOV 1832 Burntisland, Fife, Scotland
Parents Alexander Morrison and Helen Garnock
You will find them online
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
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Thanks for this! It gets difficult searching from Oz!
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Related thread;
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=81092.msg6700432
Thanks for this! It gets difficult searching from Oz!
familysearch.org is available worldwide as is scotlandspeople.gov.uk (the official site for Scottish records) although pay-per-view at very reasonable cost.
Annie
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Entry on SP;
MORISON JAMES 06/01/1833 (baptisms at end of a yr may be recorded early the following yr)
Parents - ALEXANDER MORISON/HELEN GARNOCH
411/40 71 Burntisland (Fife)
An older son;
MORRISON GEORGE 19/10/1831
ALEXANDER MORRISON/HELEN GARNOCH
411/40 66 Burntisland
Annie
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Marriage Burntisland Alexander Morison and Helen Garnoch Sept 1830.
Possible birth/baptism for Helen - showing as Hellen Garnock 28/09/1798 -parents James Garnoch and Margaret Morrison.
(Siblings? Ann 1791, Betty 1794, Charlotte 1796, Janet 1788, Margaret 1792 and James -he is transcribed as Garnoch -1800).
1841 census has this
High Street Burntisland
James Garnock 80
Margaret Garnock 80
Janet Garnock 50
Eliza Garnock 30
John McBride 10
Charlotte McBride 9
( There is a marriage of a Charlotte Garnock marriage to John McBride 7/02/1821 in Burntisland).
Baptism ? Alexander Morrison 30 / 10/1794 Burntisland parents George Morrison and Margaret Lessels.
1841 census does have a George Morison 75 and Margaret Morison 70 in Burntisland.
These are simply some possibilities worth exploring further.
William
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Very promising William! ;)
Annie
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Children of Alexander Morison/Morrison & Helen Garnock.
George born 3rd Sep. 1831, baptized 19th Oct. 1831. Burntisland, Fife.
James " 4th Nov. 1832, " 6th Jan. 1833. " "
Alexander " 24th Aug. 1834, " 28th Sep.1834. St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian.
Henry " 27th Jan. 1836, " 6th Mar. 1836. " " "
Andrew " 20th Aug. 1837, " 31st Dec. 1837. " " "
John " 2nd May 1841, " 6th June 1841. Queensferry, West Lothian.
1841 Census. High Street, Queensferry, West Lothian.
Alexander Morison 45 Super(visor) Excise.
Helen " 40
George " 9
James " 8
Alexander " 6
Henry " 5
Andrew " 3
John " 1 month.
1851 Census. Graham's Road, Falkirk, Stirlingshire.
Alexander Morrison 56 Supervisor of Inland Revenue b Burntisland, Fife.
Helen " 52 Wife b " "
Alexander " 16 Son. Draper (Apprentice). b Edinburgh.
Henry " 15 " Scholar. b "
Andrew " 13 " " b "
John " 9 " " b South Queensferry, Linlithgowshire.
(Linlithgowshire now named West Lothian)
1861 Census. Chapel Lane, Falkirk, Stirlingshire.
Alexander Morison 66 Retired Supervisor Inland Revenue. b Burntisland, Fife.
Helen " 61 Wife b " "
1871 Census. North U.P. Manse, Upper *Jowisland?, Auchtermuchty, Fife.
(*Jowisland might be a transcription error for Juliasfield.)
John Morrison (Rev.) 29 Minister of North U.P. Chapel b Queensferry, Linlithgowshire.
Mary " 31 Wife b Falkirk, Stirlingshire.
Helen " 72 Mother. Annuitant b Burntisland, Fife.
Possible death for Alexander Morison. 1871 at Burntisland, Fife, age 76yrs.
Helen Morison, other name Garnock died 1878 at Burntisland age 80yrs.
Possible marriage for son John Morrison. 1867 at Falkirk, Stirlingshire to Mary Hume.
Not found James or his older brother George after the 1841 Census.
Regards, Dod.
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Good finds, Dod! Alexander appears to have left a will.
The will is dated 11/5/1871 with the description Supervisor of Inland Revenue at Falkirk, lately residing at High Street Burntisland.
Of all the documents available on Scotland's People, marp, this is probably the best one to obtain as it may indicate that this is the correct family ( cost 10 credits).
William
Added: Helen died 16 Nov 1878. She died intestate - confirmation to Rev John Morison, Minister North UP Church, Auchtrmuchty.
Fife Herald 9 Feb 1871 has death notice for Alexander "on the 5th inst. "
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Hi everyone, Yes Alexander Morison left a will which is available on Scotlands People. Helen Garnoch returned to Burntisland after his death and resided for some time with her son Rev John Morison in Auchtermuchty.
However, let me go back a little and add some details of the children of Alexander Morison and Helen Garnoch to the information already posted.
1) George, eldest son became a pharmacist in Peebles. He and his wife had no children.
2) james, the second son, emigrated to Melbourne Australia. He married Elizabeth Young at the Scots Church in Melbourne in 1857.Elizsbeth Young was born in Pattertown, Kilwinning. James was a plasterer living in Collingwood, a suburb of Melbourne.
3) Alexander was a draper and seemed to move around a bit in Scotland. The will of his father is interesting in that he left Alexander very little as he had already given/lent him money. Alexander and family emigrated to the USA shortly after his father's death.
4) Henry emigrated to New Zealand and Morison descendents there have been active in tracking their family history back to Burntisland.
5) Andrew was lost at sea following the wreck of the "General Grant" off the coast of New Zealand. The survivors of the wreck were stranded on an island and Andrew and two others set off to try to find mainland and get help. They were never heard from again. The romantic story of this has been passed down the Morison family for generations. Andrew had been staying with his brother James in Melbourne before signing on for the voyage with the "General Grant". The few belongings that Andrew left behind were returned to his brother Henry in New Zealand.
6) John Morison became a Presbyterian minister at Auchtermuchty and was there for 42 years.
I do have more information on the Morison family if any of you are interested.
marp
Alexander
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Hi, I thought I would add a bit more information.
I visited Burntisland a few years ago from Australia. I know a similar visit was made a few years later by a Morison descendant from New Zealand. In the Burntisland churchyard is an imposing monument to George Morison (1761-1847), a ship's master,his wife Margaret Lessly (1761-1847?)and family. We also found a modest stone which was lying on the ground for their son Alexander Morison and wife Helen Garnoch.
Further information Burntisland deeds 1731-1896:
"GARNOCK, JAMES: shipmaster in Burntisland; Disp in favour of spouse, Mgt Morison, in life-rent (also life-rent to his unmarried daughters, Janet and Betsy, while they remain unmarried), and to children: sd Janet and Betsy; Helen (w of Alexander Morison, Officer of Excise); Ann (widow of James Muirhead, residing Dunbar); Mgt (widow of Andrew Wilson); and Charlotte (w of John McBride, sailor in Burntisland); 7 March 1844 [B9/8/1 folio 142-47]"
And from the Kirkcaldy Deeds:
"MORRISON, DOUGLAS: merchant in Kirkcaldy; Trust Disp & Settlement for relations, including George Morrison, shipowner in Burntisland; Mgt Morrison, spouse of James Garnock, also shipowner there;; and Mgt Morrison, residing Burntisland, widow of John Mills, late merchant in Aberdour; 5 May 1824 [B41/8/1 fol 152-55]"
marp
George Morison was the father of Alexander Morison of Burntisland. George Morison was a ship's master and there is an imposing gravestone still standing in the churchyard there with all the family details.
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Just realised that the thread was started in 2005! Oops. No wonder we have not provided anything new :)
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Likewise, didn't notice the date on the original post.
Thankyou 'marp' for an update on a family we took an interest in, even though we were too late to be of any help. Enjoyed the search, especially since distant relatives of mine married into a Morris/Morrison family in the Kinghorn area, but I didn't find any connection.
Regards, Dod.
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Marp I know this thread is quite old but I wonder if you have done much work on the garnock family.
I am trying to link the fife garnocks to my edinburgh garnocks but cant quite find the connection yet. Looking at the 1851 census your relatives Alexander Morrison and helen garnoch lived in same street as my second great grandmother Mary anne garnock who was a domestic servant to a family of teachers. I think cant just be a coincidence and maybe they got her a job as she had no parents and was a distant relative. Mary Anne's father was John garnock who's brother william buchan or beveridge garnock moved to dysart to be a grocer in 1832 and died in 1881 wth his son having the business until they died in 1920s. This is another reason I think there is a fife connection.
Any help would be welcome
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I am trying to trace the family history of James Morison born November 4, 1832 in Burntisland. James migrated to Australia and married Elizabeth Young (born September 5, 1831 in Kilwinning, Ayrshire) at the Scots Church, Melbourne, Victoria in 1857.
Any information would be much appreciated!
my records show her name was Helen harvie correct me if I'm wrong please there sok George is my great great grandad
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I am trying to link the fife garnocks to my edinburgh garnocks but cant quite find the connection yet. Looking at the 1851 census your relatives Alexander Morrison and helen garnoch lived in same street as my second great grandmother Mary anne garnock .
Mary Anne's father was John garnock who's brother william buchan or beveridge garnock moved to dysart to be a grocer in 1832 and died in 1881 wth his son having the business until they died in 1920s. This is another reason I think there is a fife connection.
It amazes me when people post skeletal info. about their ancestors, omitting wives (who could be the Fife connection)?, dates, places of BMDs & other important info. pertaining to those people.
When/where was Mary Ann born/married/died, who was her mother?
What info. do you have on father John?
Have you looked at the DC of William (brother of John)?...
GARNOCK WILLIAM 68 - SMITH (mms) - 1881 - 426/ 158 Dysart
From this we know their mother was surname Smith.
What info. have you found on census' re Mary Ann, John & wife, William et al?
When/where did John & wife die?
Please list all info. you already know to save duplication of effort for any/all willing to help in your search.
Annie
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Sorry I have no more information. I began this thread in 2005 and many people added information as they did more research (including me).
I am not investigating this family tree any more. However, I would like to thank all those who contributed so many years ago.
marp