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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Roscommon => Topic started by: Salty on Wednesday 20 February 19 16:43 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
My gg grandmother died in Roscommon, Westmeath in 1873, her husband was James JUDGE born I believe in 1829 St Marys, Westmeath. He had been in the Rifle Brigade and served for some time in India where his children were born. In Feb 1881 he emigrated to the USA on a ship called Spain from Queenstown, with his children, and died in August 1891 Massechusetts. His parents names were given as Richard and Elizabeth. No other details known.
I would be very grateful if any details on his family could be found, parents and siblings.
TIA Tom
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… her husband was James JUDGE born I believe in 1929 St Marys, Westmeath.
You mean 1829.
Which religious denomination was James?
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Yes I do mean 1829, slip of the finger although it is in the title. I have no idea what his religion was.
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Have you found James Judge's marriage ? What was his wife's name?
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No records for 1829
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0178&parish=St.%20Mary%27s,%20Athlone
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Maiden Stone, James married in 1853 at Deal, Kent to Sarah Pittock, who died in 1873 Roscommon.
Thank you Hallmark.
Tom
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If i have the right death did he remarry ?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-68L3-M53?i=222&cc=1463156
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From one of your other posts i see Elizabeth Gertrude Judge born 1868 India
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGQ8-BLK
married William Henry Walker born Ireland 1864 in 1887
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWT9-XD4
William Henry Walker born 9th March 1864 Moate,Co Westmeath to Edward Walker and Elizabeth Judge
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03625/2338132.pdf
were they cousins ?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGX9-K7K
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Hi there Tom I too have a Judge from Westmeath, though I do not have enough info to be definitive into where he fits in the Judges of Westmeath.
There were both Catholic and Protestant Judges in the Athlone area. Mine were Protestant.
In your message you say St Marys, is that Sy Marys of Athlone?
Records of St Marys Athlone
Some years ago I made some notes, in the Church of Ireland Library in Dublin regarding Judges from the Athlone area. Mine are from the protestant line.
Looking back through the notes I have, I have got a baptism record for a
Sally Judge born 29 April 1822, baptised May5th 1822 parents Richard and Elizabeth.
John, son of Richard and Elizabeth born Mar20 bapt Mar28 1824 (This is most likely mine)
James born july28 bapt july30 1826 son of Richard and Elizabeth.
Thomas born Apr15 bapt May2nd 1830 son of Richard and Elizabeth
Richard son of Richard and Elizabeth born june15th
Eliza bapt. Oct1 1837 her birth Sept6, parents Richard and Elizabeth.
I have a birth of Richard Judge, Dec2 1797, bap Dec nd. 1797, Son of James and Jane Judge of Bonnavalley
A burial of a Richard Judge, an inmate of the workhouse, died 23 Dec, buried 24th 1847
My judge , John on his marriage record has his father as Richard, and his age as 28 which makes his birth as 1828, though the record is 1824.
These are the only two records I have so I have only included this in my tree in the absence of additional records but with a caution note attached.
I hope this may be of some help to you.
Geoff
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Hi Geoff,
Sorry it has taken me a couple of days to reply. Just making sure of a few things.
With what you have there it looks to me like you have the right connections to the Judge family that I am connected to.
My connection is that my Gt Gt grandmother, Sarah Ann PITTOCK had a child out of wedlock in 1851 who she gave up for adoption, this was in 1851 in Deal, Kent.
Sarah then married James Judge in 1852 in Deal, Kent, who was a Rifleman in the Rifle Brigade, serving in Dover Castle I believe. They went off to India where they had several children. They eventually ended up in Ireland and Sarah died in Rosscommon, Westmeath in April 1873. James then took his family over to the USA where he died in Lowell, Massechusetts in Aug 1891. His children all married over there.
I have been in contact with his descendents and they tell me that he was born in St Marys Westmeath in 1829. His parents were Richard and Elizabeth Judge.
May I suggest that you take the Ancstry DNA test as this is how I was put in contact and will prove your research for you. Whereas my bloodline was through Sarah his wife, I am sure it will prove your bloodline through James.
I would be very interested to hear the result if you do take it.
Best regards
Tom
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Hi Tom, happy to have been some use.
Have you tried the National Archives for the Rifle Brigade records.
I had a quick look on FindMyPast and there are baptism records in India of their children. Also records of two of his boys in school in Dublin.
Is their son William James born in Eastry in 1854 the same child that dies in Portsmouth in 1855?
Geoff