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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => England => Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests => Topic started by: lincsmaster on Tuesday 19 February 19 10:26 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
John Pinyoun (Pynion), married Sarah Stevens, in Romsey, Hants., on the 14th Dec1795. need to know whether the register entry gives his original parish residence other than it being Romsey.
Can anyone help please.
Lincsmaster
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Have you also seen this entry :-\
John Penyoun
Sarah Stevens
Marriage Date 20 September 1795
St John the Baptist, Margate, Kent
FHL Film Number 1886164
Reference ID: item 207 p 42
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Thanks - Haven't seen that one. food for thought, amazing if there are two brides with the same name, marrying in the same year to two grooms with such similarly spelt surnames. Surely something is wrong somewhere!
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I suspect it is the same couple, could it be Banns :-\
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This transcript
http://www.shelwin.com/e/Thanet_Research/Margate_StJohnBaptist_m1_1686-1812.pdf
(listed as PINYOUN) says they were both of this parish and banns only.
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The Romsey couple have a son Robert baptised on the 24th Jan 1796, a month after their marriage. They then disappear
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This message on Ancestry implies they ended up in Lewes, Sussex.
https://www.ancestry.com/boards/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=3&p=surnames.pinyoun
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Could well be, because I think the John Pinyoun who married in Romsey came from Sussex, but I can't prove it yet, hence the need to check the marriage entry in the Romsey register. Thanks for your continued interest and help.
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There's a burial for a Sarah Pinion, aged 31, at St John Sub Castro, Lewes - 28th February 1804.
The marriage to Sarah NYE was in 1805.
So how to prove that the couple married in Romsey were the same couple having banns read in Margate? Providing they were living in Romsey at the time of their marriage the register will just say otp.
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Presumably they would they have had to have the Banns read a second time? She heavily pregnant, why do a runner from Margate. One might think that her father objected to her marriage and that she was under 21, but her age at death in 1804 seems to indicate a birth year c1773, which would have made her of age in 1795. Their first two sons were to become a blacksmith and whitesmith respectively, so one might think that John Pinyoun practised a similar trade. Why therefore was he in two coastal towns each in equal and almost opposite directions from his home town of Telscombe, Sussex. I can't fathom this one out yet!!
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I'm not sure where you are going to find any further evidence. ???
I've looked for a marriage licence but can't see one in Hampshire.
Romsey seems a strange place to have married. At least Margate & Lewes were on the coast. Penyoun doesn't seem to be a Margate name.
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I know, but Romsey is on the river Test, just a few miles up river from the Solent. Both locations close to key ports/harbours from a naval perspective. England technically at war with France since 1793 following the French Revolution. Rumours of possible invasion rife, could the Admiralty have been employing a small army of tradesmen to enhance key harbour defences on the south east and south coasts. Pinyoun likely to have been a smith by trade. He meets Sarah whilst working at Broadstairs (cinque port), near Margate, but gets moved on at very short notice causing the marriage to be cancelled. All supposition I know, but it makes a good story!!
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Hi Bearkat,
Just wanted to day thank you for your interest in my problem, and your help. Much appreciated
Kind regards
Lincsmaster