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Title: McKenna
Post by: annettej on Wednesday 13 February 19 09:28 GMT (UK)
I wonder if anyone is linked to a widow Mary Mckenna who died in 1918, Handsworth, Birmingham.  I have her will and she mentions five children of whom two sons by name Henry James Mckenna born 1884 who was a Roman Catholic Priest and buried in Halifax 1940 and John Joseph Mckenna born 1886 who I have information on for WW1 but not the rest of her family.  Mary Mckenna was living at  8 Endwood Court Road, Handsworth Wood, Birmingham at the time of her death in 1918 (born c 1848). I have her will but to date have been unable to get any further back on Mary.  Possible link to a Chrissie Mckenna with her son John on the Electoral registers in the 1830's Duchess Rd, but I cannot find a marriage for them.  Would really like to find Mary on the Census but not making very good progress, can anyone help or advise please?  I think originally she hailed from Ireland as her Will was registered in Ireland as well.
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 February 19 10:08 GMT (UK)
Where was the will registered in Ireland?
Have you tried Irish records?
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: ColC on Wednesday 13 February 19 10:27 GMT (UK)
Mary’s death registration below. Do you know where the children were born?

Mary McKenna
Birth about 1848
Death 12/1918 West Bromwich Staffordshire

Colin
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 February 19 10:36 GMT (UK)
Henry looks to be born 1879/80 According to his death record and 1939.

1901 4674/113/3

Henry McKenna 21 yrs b Ireland is a student at Ushaw College, Durham.
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: annettej on Wednesday 13 February 19 10:42 GMT (UK)
Will was proved in Birmingham Registry just listed as National  Archives Ireland http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1700519330
I do not know where the children were born.

Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 February 19 10:42 GMT (UK)
Does John Joseph’s record give his birthplace?

Or residence?
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: annettej on Wednesday 13 February 19 10:50 GMT (UK)
His war record give his mothers address and also next of kin his brother  Revd H J Mckenna in Halifax.  Brother died in 1940 he was interred at Stoney Royd Cemetery, Halifax Death records states Aged 60 years. He was a priest at St Bernards for 8years.
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 February 19 16:12 GMT (UK)
Was Mary living at the same address as her probate record?
What date was the War Record?
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: annettej on Wednesday 13 February 19 16:17 GMT (UK)
Yes Mary was living at the address given on her will.
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 February 19 16:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks annettej.

The family weren't there in 1911 so that narrows it. Perhaps later electoral rolls would help.

Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 February 19 16:42 GMT (UK)
Just noted that Mary died in 1918 so maybe the house was disposed of then.
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: annettej on Wednesday 13 February 19 16:48 GMT (UK)
I think after the war and the will was registered etc. the son purchased property in Aston as I have 2 addresses later on one at Duchess Road and nearby. But trying to find the family on the census has not been an easy task.  Not very good on War records and the newspapers do not mention much about his brother when he died.
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 February 19 16:54 GMT (UK)
I think this may be the family

Parents James and Mary McKenna maiden name McCormick Letterkenny

James Henry 1st October 1879 (check 1939 entry)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1879/02896/2061146.pdf

John Joseph 6th May 1886
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02603/1961327.pdf

Mary McKenna 5th Fenbruary 1881
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1881/02841/2041266.pdf

Catherine Gertrude 17th July 1884
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02680/1987279.pdf

It is worth considering these but the children don’t quite match the number you said.


Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: annettej on Wednesday 13 February 19 17:14 GMT (UK)
Thank you, strange as I have viewed these before but was not sure they were a match.
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 February 19 17:16 GMT (UK)
Nor am I but the two you have named have the same birthdates.
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: annettej on Wednesday 13 February 19 17:18 GMT (UK)
Well will keep working at it thank you for your help
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 February 19 17:59 GMT (UK)
Did John Joseph marry?
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: annettej on Wednesday 13 February 19 18:16 GMT (UK)
Not been able to find marriage for him. But he is listed on the electoral roll in the 1930,s with a Christina/Chrissie,


Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 February 19 18:25 GMT (UK)
In your first post, you think Chrissie and ‘her son’ John  ???
Is that right?
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: annettej on Wednesday 13 February 19 20:01 GMT (UK)
John is not her son, only her partners son. From previous relationship
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 February 19 23:08 GMT (UK)
Based on the Irish birth, here is a strong possibility for John Joseph in 1911

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWB4-ZGQ
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 13 February 19 23:26 GMT (UK)
Death of James McKenna, Publican Letterkenny 1886
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06233/4784077.pdf

John Joseph was only a few months old.
Title: Re: McKenna
Post by: annettej on Thursday 14 February 19 07:15 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much for your help.  I have printed off the information and will look at all this information over the weekend.