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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kilkenny => Topic started by: daisynook on Wednesday 06 February 19 16:58 GMT (UK)
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I'm looking for a family with the above names. Ellen Berrigan married James Reilly don't know a date but I think they must have been born around 1880. James went to Boston, USA and died there. Their children were James, Thomas, Patrick, Maureen and Helen, again don't know dates but must have been born between 1910-1930 all born in Kilkenny, I think in Callan.
Any light appreciated.
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C Reg Marriage results for Berrigan http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nd6/
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births with Mother's Birth Surname Berrigan
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nd7/
they don't seem to have registered anyone!!
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Thanks hallmark. I had seen some of these before but still can't find an Ellen Berrigan marrying James Riley! Am I missing them somewhere?
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I'm looking for a family with the above names. Ellen Berrigan married James Reilly don't know a date but I think they must have been born around 1880. James went to Boston, USA and died there. Their children were James, Thomas, Patrick, Maureen and Helen, again don't know dates but must have been born between 1910-1930 all born in Kilkenny, I think in Callan.
Any light appreciated.
I can’t trace any births either - where and when do you have any of these people?
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I'm looking for these people for a friend. Her grandmother was Ellen Berrigan, the only date I have is she died in Kilkenny around 1980 at the age of 90. Grandfather James Reilly went to Boston and died there but as they had all those children it must have been after the war.
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If it is her grandmother, she will know, I would imagine, the year of birth of her parent and perhaps some siblings. That would help.
I wonder if they married in USA?
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she died in Kilkenny around 1980 at the age of 90... not on 1901 Census....
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nd8/
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They are not turning up in the censuses in Boston. I also searched using only the parents' names and got no results either. (Both searches at familysearch.org)
Did Ellen go to Boston with James and then return to Ireland after his death? So are the children in the US? Or did James run off and go to Boston on his own, leaving Ellen and the children in Ireland?
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Afraid not, parents and siblings all dead. James Riley Jnr was living in England when he died in 1972 I believe in London.
Yes, you got it. He left wife and children at home.
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births with Mother's Birth Surname Berrigan
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nd7/
they don't seem to have registered anyone!!
and 9 more as "Berigan", but nothing close to Reilly for a surname
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nda/
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You might have to go back and start at square one with your friend's mother or father's birth record, death record, etc. And her grandmother's death record in Kilkenny. I don't know whether they will release them to her, because I don't know the Irish laws. Most jurisdictions in the US will release a record if you can prove you are a descendant. Some states will even if you aren't.
See if she knows or can find out about when James Reilly Sr left his family. It would probably line up closely to his emigration date, and would help with finding him in the Boston censuses. Mass death records are online only up to 1920 I think, but the Registry will search 10 year periods after that. It would be fruitless, though, to start looking for James Reilly/Riley/etc in the death records, and would be very expensive to request all possibilities.
I saw one James Reilly on a census living in Boston as a boarder in the "Wayfarer's Inn" (sounds like a homeless shelter of sorts, I should Google it), but it is impossible to say that it is him without a reliable DOB and arrival date.
Has she tried talking to her older cousins?
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It would be fruitless, though, to start looking for James Reilly/Riley/etc in the death records, and would be very expensive to request all possibilities.
Aside from the fact that if he died here with no family, even worse in a shelter or City Hospital, whoever filled out his death record probably wouldn't know enough about him to identify him with "your" James Reilly from Kilkenny.
Any hope that he knew someone in Boston? had a brother here? See what she knows or can find out. Again, if one generation is dead, ask the next one :), you never know.
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Every time I walk away from the computer, I think of another question/possibility. Is she sure of the name Berrigan? Could it be a name that sounds like it, Harrigan or Kerrigan for example?
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Every time I walk away from the computer, I think of another question/possibility. Is she sure of the name Berrigan? Could it be a name that sounds like it, Harrigan or Kerrigan for example?
Even allowing for that....searching 1901 Census for Ellen, Kilkenny, Age 10 (+/-5 yrs) I don't see her!
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ndb/
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I asked her the same question, she was even definite it was rr!
As for his death, he died in an accident on the trams in Boston. Going to do dinner now so will continue tomorrow.
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I thought I had a possible death for James, but not so. The first death record for this James Riley said he died August 1, 1911, at City Hospital, Boston, age 36. cause of death: hemorrhage and shock following traumatic amputation of both legs by being run over by train, accidental.
birthplace: Ireland
occupation: oiler
parents: James Riley and Ellen Griffin, both born in Ireland
buried: St Joseph's Cemetery.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6SJ3-SD9?i=1707&cc=1463156
But after further looking, I found the city's record of that man's death which had further information that wasn't copied to the state's record. It isn't him. The informant is likely his wife. And he worked for the railroad, not the Metropolitan Transit Authority, which ran the trolleys.
It gives his birthplace as Co. Cork.
other additional information:
home address: 38 Marshfield St, Roxbury
white, male, married, born 1875
worked for the Boston and Albany RR
informant: Bridget Riley
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2Q2-8W5Z
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here are a couple of James Rileys boarding with people in Boston. The first is interesting because the lodger listed ahead of him is named Derrigan. (clutching at straws), but she was born in Massachusetts.
1940 at 637 Dudley Street, Roxbury, age 67, a painter
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4VM-4Y7
1930 Wayfayer's Lodge, 30 Hawkins Street, a construction laborer, age 48
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQ5R-JRS
1940 Tewksbury State Hospital, Tewksbury Massachusetts
age 64, no occupation
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4FY-29X
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Why not try a lookup request on the rootschat US board for James Riley's death? Getting hit by a trolley and dying might have made the newspaper.
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Any clue what James' occupation in America was? Or whether he died before or after his wife?
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James Reilly 1928, Callan mmn Bergin
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F13Z-DQ1
Possibilities?
Bernard J O’Reilly 1931 Dublin mmn Bergin
Mary P O’ Reilly 1932 Dublin mmn Bergin
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There are Ellen Bergins in Kilkenny in 1901 and 1911, where we didn't find any Ellen Berrigans.
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There are Ellen Bergins in Kilkenny in 1901 and 1911, where we didn't find any Ellen Berrigans.
Yes there are and a birth abt 1895 which might fit with the death age.
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This is the one I quite favoured
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02214/1836098.pdf
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Thank you oldohiohome and heywood for all your hard work. This morning I see the birth returns. I know much info is written down wrongly in those days so that maybe the case with surname. Where it shows Residence of Informant 'Black Mill St', I've come across that address before and I see the name above Ellen has the same place and name - could this be a doctors or hospital do you think? I will see today if any of that info rings any bells with my friend.
I got very excited when I read of the man having the accident on train but alas don't think it was the right person. He worked on trams and was killed in a tram accident (that's the story anyway) he was an Inspector. His wife in Ireland received a pension until he died in Boston. I will look on Roots US as you recommended, I hadn't thought of that.
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943 Bergin, Ellen Bergin, Ellen Parliament St (hair dresser/ barber)
http://kilkennyarchaeologicalsociety.ie/list-of-kilkenny-women-signing-against-conscription-in-1918/
??
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Thank you also hallmark for your hard work. If the name was shortened to Bergin this could be her again. I'm trying to get in touch with my friend to see what she thinks of that.
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http://www.patricksparish.com/windx.htm has about 12 Bergins
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Not sure now re the Ellen I posted.
There is a marriage in 1929 - Ellen, daughter of John, a Labourer
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1929/09056/5276508.pdf
I had wondered if perhaps Ellen was married before her marriage to James Reilly but as there is a possible birth in 1928, it would rule out my theory of the above marriage. I hope you can follow that. :)
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Thank yo heywood and hallmark for all the suggestions. I need some time to digest them all now.
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about Bergin ~ Berrigan ~ Berigan
I read somewhere, but I can't find it now, that the Irish often inserted a vowel between two consonants to make a word easier to pronounce. Probably still do, I don't live there.
The example they gave was the pronunciation of Dublin as Dubalin - think of the song "Rocky Road to Dubalin". I can add another. My grandfather's townland is spelled "Ballintur", but when he pronounced it for the man filling out his passenger manifest it was written down as "Ballinatore".
Also the name Bergin probably was pronounced more like "Bare-gen". Which makes it easier to want to insert a vowel between the "r" and the "g".
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If you request a lookup, be sure they know to look for a trolley not a tram in the search. I lived in Boston for 30 years and that is what they are called. other key words might be "Green Line" but that might be a little more recent. All the trolleys were on the Green Line.
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If Ellen got his pension, then James must have died before her, correct?
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Thanks oldohiohome very much for that explanation, I'd been thinking that my friend might just have misheard the pronunciation - looks that way at the moment. And yes, Grandmother lived to be 90 in Kilkenny.
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943 Bergin, Ellen Bergin, Ellen Parliament St (hair dresser/ barber)
http://kilkennyarchaeologicalsociety.ie/list-of-kilkenny-women-signing-against-conscription-in-1918/
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Take a close look at that list, there are more than one Bergin on it, and I think Ellen's home and business address are both on it. But she is a Mrs Bergin, so not your friend's grandmother. Maybe a relative.
Regarding heywood's find of Ellen b 1895, and Ellen married in 1929. Different fathers' names, so not contradictory.
Regarding the informant in 1895, another possibility is that the lady is a midwife. She might turn up on the 1901 Census. Veall = Vail = Veil = etc., :)
time to digest my breakfast here in the US, happy hunting. let us know what you find.
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I will, thanks again for all your help and suggestions, very grateful.
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yes you are right - I was thinking her father was John ::) when I looked at the marriage.
He was Edward, a coachman on her birth but a Labourer elsewhere.
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Update - I have found that James Reilly junior was born in 1921. Also it looks like Black Mill Street was a hospital.
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James Reilly 1928, Callan mmn Bergin
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F13Z-DQ1
Possibilities?
Bernard J O’Reilly 1931 Dublin mmn Bergin
Mary P O’ Reilly 1932 Dublin mmn Bergin
Update - I have found that James Reilly junior was born in 1921. Also it looks like Black Mill Street was a hospital.
So the ones found are unlikely to be the right family :-\
Where was James born?
Is he the oldest child?
Here are some/all James Reillys b 1921
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ndk/
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There is only one James Reilly marriage from 1905 to 1922 in any of the Registration Districts in Kilkenny. It is a common name, but evidently not in Kilkenny. Did they marry elsewhere? Was Ellen Bergin married before she married James?
(based on https://www.swilson.info/regdistbyco.php#kilkenny)
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For Ellin Bergin marriage 1915 to 1927
Kilkenny RD none
Callan RD none
Thomastown RD none
Carrick on Suir RD none
Castlecomer RD none
New Ross RD none
Urlingford RD none
Waterford RD none
For an Ellen Bergin marriage, to anyone, anywhere 1915 to 1927
none with a father named Edward
Ellen Berrigan or Berigan marriage, anyone, anywhere 1915 to 1927
nothing at all found
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Here is what I think we have on the family so far
Ellen Bergen/Berrigan ( - c 1980, Kilkenny)
died age 90
is she: (Reply #20) Kilkenny Reg Dist #2
March 28, 1895, Seville Lodge
Ellen daughter of Edward Bergin, a coachman of Seville Lodge, and Bridget Bergin, formerly O'Meara/Mara,
informant: Margaret Veall, of Black Mill Street, present at birth
+ James Reilly/O'Reilly ( - d before wife, Boston MA)
left wife and children in Ireland
inspector for MTA, accidental death involving a trolley
is he: 1930, Wayfayer's Lodge, age 48
is he: 1940, 637 Dudley Street, age 67
is he: 1940, Tewksbury State Hospital, age 64
- James Reilly (b 1921, probably in Callan, Kilkenny - d 1972, maybe London)
or is he b 3rd Qtr 1928, Callan, mother's maiden name: Bergin (Reply #17)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F13Z-DQ1
- Thomas Reilly (b probably in Callan, Kilkenny - )
- Patrick Reilly (b probably in Callan, Kilkenny - )
- Maureen Reilly (b probably in Callan, Kilkenny - )
- Helen Reilly (b probably in Callan, Kilkenny - )
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I also looked through the records for Edward Bergin and Bridget O'Mara/O'Meara/Mara/Maher, parents of Ellen Bergin born 28 March 1895. Also records for their children, hoping to find an O'Reilly as an informant on the records. But I didn't. I have their information, if it turns out that they are the right family or if you want it.
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Edward Bergin (c 1871, Kilkenny - )
d ? 2 March 1961, St Luke's Hospital, Kilkenny, 91, widower, retired builder's laborer, informant: Oliver O'Hare, St Lukes
1901 House 5 in Farmley (Burnchurch, Kilkenny)
1911 house 14 Ennisnag (Ennisnag, Kilkenny)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kilkenny/Ennisnag/Ennisnag/531145/
+ Bridget Mara/O'Meara/Maher (c 1872, Kilkenny - )
d ? 13 June 1915, Glountha, Thomastown RD, 42, married, laborer, informant Edward Bergin, Glountha, no relation stated, present at death)
d ?16 April 1949, Callan, age 72, widow, informant son James "dwells at Callan?")
Children:
- Pierce Bergin (8 August 1893, Coolbricken, Kilkenny RD, informant: the mother
- Ellen Bergin (28 March 1895, Seville Lodge, Kilkenny RD, informant Margaret Veall, Black Mill St
1911: cook, private family High Street Kilkenny
- Bridget Bergin (23 October 1896, Seville Lodge, Kilkenny RD, informant Margaret Veall, Black Mill St
1911: maid, private family High Street Kilkenny
marriage or marriage not found in Kilkenny, Callan, or Thomastown, 1915 - 1999
- Margaret Bergin (7 December 1898, Barrack St, Kilkenny RD, informant: the mother
1911: with parents
- James Bergin (24 November 1900, Farmley, Callan RD, informant: the mother
1911: with parents
- Mary (10 December 1902, Farmley, Callan RD, informant: the mother
1911: with parents
- Edward/Edmond Bergin (23 February 1905, Farmley, informant Margaret Holden, Bridge Street, Callan, present at birth, Callan RD
1911: with parents
- Kathleen Bergin (24 February 1908, Jail St, Kilkenny RD, informant: the mother
1911: with parents
- Patrick Berrigan (11 May 1910, Glountha, Thomastown RD, informant: Mary Murphy, farmer somewhere
1911: with parents
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I have an apology to make to everyone who contributed to this discussion. Some of the information on James O'Reilly isn't right. He was born in Dunmore or Tuam, Galway but married Ellen who did come from Kilkenny. I have searched for his siblings, one Maureen died in 1946 age 20-21 and have found her in New Rahoon Cemetery, Galway. That hasn't helped with my search for her brother though.
There are some photo's on Ancestry of Ellen Berrigan but I don't have a subscription to Ancestry so can't confirm that this is the right person.
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Is this Maureen’s death?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1947/04587/4213830.pdf
If James was born c 1880, then it is doubtful that Maureen would be his sister :-\
Where did that information come from?
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No sorry, the father of James Riley has the same name but I am looking for the younger James. I believe he was b.1921, the youngest of the children including Thomas, Patrick, Maureen and Helen.
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I have found a page on Family Search which I believe is the right family but not much info. I emailed the name of person who added it but no reply as yet.
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G4HR-HRK
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No sorry, the father of James Riley has the same name but I am looking for the younger James. I believe he was b.1921, the youngest of the children including Thomas, Patrick, Maureen and Helen.
The Maureen who died had a father Edward.
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I'm looking for these people for a friend. Her grandmother was Ellen Berrigan, the only date I have is she died in Kilkenny around 1980 at the age of 90. Grandfather James Reilly went to Boston and died there but as they had all those children it must have been after the war.
Me again, sorry.
So you are saying that James Reilly and Ellen Berrigan are parents of James b 1920 ish? Is that right?
Did Ellen Berrigan who died around 1980 due as Berrigan or O’Reilly/Reilly?
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Yes, that's right. It gets confusing with the father and son with same name!! Ellen Berrigan was married to the older. :-[
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Ok. That would discount the death of Maureen then.
I have tried going over the thread but got a bit lost.
Were all these children below born in Ireland? They would be the children of James Reilly and Ellen Berrigan?
No sorry, the father of James Riley has the same name but I am looking for the younger James. I believe he was b.1921, the youngest of the children including Thomas, Patrick, Maureen and Helen.
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Yes, that's right, easy to get lost, I've done it so many times!
Yes, all children born in Kilkenny, Ireland, I believe James being the eldest.
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As has been said before, there are no obvious births for children of those names in The Kilkenny registration district 1910-1921.
With regard to Ellen Berrigan’s death, dies your friend have better details - a memorial card for instance with place and date of death etc.
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Did all or any of the children stay in Ireland? If so - where?
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I have found a page on Family Search which I believe is the right family but not much info. I emailed the name of person who added it but no reply as yet.
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G4HR-HRK
That tree has James who ‘married’ Ellen Berrigan with a year of birth 1914.
That wouldn’t make sense with your dates, would it?
It might be best to work back from what is known.
Your friend’s relevant parent.
The parents’ marriage with father’s details.
The O’Reilly parent’s place of birth and approximate year etc.
The death of grandma - what details are known.
Is it Kilkenny town or a place within the county?
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I now believe that Ellen's surname was Bergin or Bergan not Berrigan. I've been told that not unusual for the name to be abbreviated.
Ellen died in March 1981.
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I am coming back to this family after many years of searching. My friend has found that her grandmother who we thought was called Ellen Berrigan had another name too Ellen Culinan or various spellings of it. I just don't understand these surnames in Ireland!!
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I am coming back to this family after many years of searching. My friend has found that her grandmother who we thought was called Ellen Berrigan had another name too Ellen Culinan or various spellings of it. I just don't understand these surnames in Ireland!!
Can you give further details about the new discovery? When/where was grandma called Culinan?
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At some point in this thread you mention Galway.
Here is a James Reilly b 1921 in Galway (Grange, Dunmore) with parents James Reilly and Ellen Cullinane.
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https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1921/01189/1495405.pdf
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You mention, Helen
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1922/01153/1481879.pdf
There is a Joseph in 1923 but no image
Mary - 1916
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01333/1550551.pdf
Patrick 1917
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01309/1541458.pdf
Peter 1918
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1918/01269/1526594.pdf
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Marriage - Reilly/Cullinan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09851/5577525.pdf
Does this ring an6 bells with your friend?
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I have an apology to make to everyone who contributed to this discussion. Some of the information on James O'Reilly isn't right. He was born in Dunmore or Tuam, Galway but married Ellen who did come from Kilkenny. I have searched for his siblings, one Maureen died in 1946 age 20-21 and have found her in New Rahoon Cemetery, Galway. That hasn't helped with my search for her brother though.
There are some photo's on Ancestry of Ellen Berrigan but I don't have a subscription to Ancestry so can't confirm that this is the right person.
Your post here fits with the Dunmore births.
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Here is a birth for Ellen Cullinan with father Henry in Callan.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02397/1893791.pdf
If this is all your friend’s family, it has been much easier to find second time round. ;)
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I'm very sorry for not keeping up with all the posts that have been sent to me. I apologise and will sort them out.
Looking at them briefly they are all the right people but what I'm trying to find out is that James O'Reilly disappeared to US I don't know the exact date but it was after he had produced a number of children. Sent regular money to Ellen for many years but never came back. There were rumours that he had re-married but no confirmation.
Will continue with this when I have all details straight
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Hopefully it will help your search if you now have the right people.
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I'm ploughing through the information -
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F13Z-DQ1
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1921/01189/1495405.pdf
The family lived in a place called Callan in Kilkenny
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1921/01189/1495405.pdf
I know its a bit mixed up but I'm getting there! Hope this of use
Ellen Bergen/Berrigan ( - c 1980, Kilkenny)
died age 90
is she: (Reply #20) Kilkenny Reg Dist #2
March 28, 1895, Seville Lodge
Ellen daughter of Edward Bergin, a coachman of Seville Lodge, and Bridget Bergin, formerly O'Meara/Mara,
informant: Margaret Veall, of Black Mill Street, present at birth
+ James Reilly/O'Reilly ( - d before wife, Boston MA)
left wife and children in Ireland
inspector for MTA, accidental death involving a trolley
is he: 1930, Wayfayer's Lodge, age 48
is he: 1940, 637 Dudley Street, age 67
is he: 1940, Tewksbury State Hospital, age 64
- James Reilly (b 1921, probably in Callan, Kilkenny - d 1972, maybe London)
or is he b 3rd Qtr 1928, Callan, mother's maiden name: Bergin (Reply #17)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F13Z-DQ1
- Thomas Reilly (b probably in Callan, Kilkenny - )
- Patrick Reilly (b probably in Callan, Kilkenny - )
- Maureen Reilly (b probably in Callan, Kilkenny - )
- Helen Reilly (b probably in Callan, Kilkenny - )
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In that case, it is not the Galway born children as she is Ellen Cullinan/e.
See reply #55
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Ellen Culinan and Helen Berrigan are the same person.
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Ellen Cullinan and Ellen Berrigan was born in Kilkenny
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James Reilly/O'Reilly ( - d before wife, Boston MA)
left wife and children in Ireland
inspector for MTA, accidental death involving a trolley
is he: 1930, Wayfayer's Lodge, age 48
is he: 1940, 637 Dudley Street, age 67
is he: 1940, Tewksbury State Hospital, age 64
That piece of information is correct
I believe he had an accident with a trolley bus - I don't know if he recovered
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He never came back from US. Ellen his wife received regular money from him as far as I know.
I see he was still alive at age 64
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Sorry if I wasn't clear on both Ellen and James. She was born in Kilkenny and he was born in Galway
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James recovered from the trolley bus accident but never came back to Ireland
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Ellen Culinan and Helen Berrigan are the same person.
I gave you the birth of Ellen Cullinan, of Callan who is not the Ellen Bergin born Kilkenny.
See reply #55
How did she become Berrigan?
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Sorry, we don't know!!!
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Ellen Cullinan’s mother was Brenan - could that be the error?
Did she die as Riley/Reilly?
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James Reilly/O'Reilly ( - d before wife, Boston MA)
left wife and children in Ireland
inspector for MTA, accidental death involving a trolley
is he: 1930, Wayfayer's Lodge, age 48
is he: 1940, 637 Dudley Street, age 67
is he: 1940, Tewksbury State Hospital, age 64
That piece of information is correct
I believe he had an accident with a trolley bus - I don't know if he recovered
Have you checked the occupations for these three entries?
Do you have the death certificate for Ellen?
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I’m unsure whether you agree with the Dunmore findings for the family.
Elllen Cullinan’s father is Henry on that marriage certificate.
Henry Cullinan died in 1890, Callan.
His widow Ellen Cullinan nee Brennan married Patrick Horan in 1897, Callan.
1901 census with step daughter, Ellen, aged 10 yrs.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kilkenny/Callan_Urban/Haggards_Green/1444900/
What do you think?
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It maybe correct but I think I need to look into it more. What happened to her brother Joseph if this was right? Thank you
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kilkenny/Callan_Urban/Haggartsgreen/562543/
He married in 1908.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10075/5664924.pdf
A witness - John Bergin - local name maybe.
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I want to thank you all for the previous help on the above lady. I appreciate that there are so many people with the same names in Kilkenny which has thoroughly confused me.
I'm trying to find if I have all the people that Ellen Brennan Cullinan Horan had been married to or have I got too many or too few!!
She had 5 children with Henry Cullinane but I'm not sure she was married to him.
I know that she married Patrick Horam, her last husband in 1897 and her first husband was James Reilly on 24 Mar 1914. I know definitely that she was born in 1860 in Callan, Kilkenny, Ireland and her death was 10 January 1936 in Haggarts Green, Callan, Kilkenny, Ireland
Any suggestions appreciated