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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: bankie on Wednesday 06 February 19 11:03 GMT (UK)
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I’m looking for any information on John Ferries family
JOHN FERRIE was born Abt. 1857 in Donegal. He married Margaret Porter on the 28 Apr 1904 in BURT Co. Donegal, daughter of JOHN PORTER and ELIZABETH MULLEN. She was born 06 Sep 1889 in Carnamoyle Donegal. John was 47 when got married and Margaret 24 and I think they had two children and came from the area of Muff. I've got a lot on Margaret's family.
Thanks for any help
Joe
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For reference:
Marriage 1904
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1904/10199/5711367.pdf
KG
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Party 1 Name JOHN FERRIE
Party 2 Name MARGARET PORTER
Date of Event 28 April 1904
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1904/10199/5711367.pdf
get you father's names and that they were RC
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0351 gets you Burt Church Registers
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1911 Census has a son Leo Porter (age 9) in household)-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Burt/Lisfannan/499423
1901 Census has a John Ferry & wife Martha in same townland-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Burt/Lisbannon/1189513
Wife Martha died in 1902-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05687/4602752.pdf
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In the same townland to John Ferry in 1901 is a slightly younger James Ferry (possibly brother?).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Burt/Lisbannon/1189512/
James Ferry married 1872 Rose Carr- his father Daniel
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11306/8148472.pdf
Birth of daughter Roseanne confirms mother was Carr-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02128/1808662.pdf
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JOHN FERRIE was born Abt. 1857 in Donegal. He married Margaret Porter on the 28 Apr 1904 in BURT Co. Donegal, daughter of JOHN PORTER and ELIZABETH MULLEN. She was born 06 Sep 1889 in Carnamoyle Donegal. John was 47 when got married and Margaret 24 and I think they had two children and came from the area of Muff. I've got a lot on Margaret's family.
Suspect the date is wrong - this would make her only 14 when marrying.
KG
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Hi
I think this one could be a mix-up as your right about the age as Margaret according to the 1901 and 1911 census gives her birth as 1889 which does make her 14? I never looked at that, Duh! The 1911 census says she 22 and unmarried. Also confusing is that she called herself Maggie as signed in the link to the church records.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Kilderry/Carnamoyle/500014/
Yet I was told she married an older man (Ferrie? Fox) and it states on the church record her father as being John Porter farmer which her father was. Two Maggie’s/ two John Porters. Back to brick wall, I think?
Thanks for the help much appreciated
Joe
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".....He married Margaret Porter on the 28 Apr 1904 in BURT Co. Donegal, daughter of JOHN PORTER and ELIZABETH MULLEN. She was born 06 Sep 1889 in Carnamoyle Donegal. John was 47 when got married and Margaret 24...."
She can't have been born 06 Sep 1889 and be 24 in 1904!
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Elizabeth Porter was born Sept 5 1889 to John Porter and Elizabeth Mullen Carnamoyle
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02464/1915035.pdf
so Margaret's birth year of 1889 has to be incorrect or the girls names are mixed up
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Elizabeth Porter was born Sept 5 1889 to John Porter and Elizabeth Mullen Carnamoyle
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02464/1915035.pdf
so Margaret's birth year of 1889 has to be incorrect or the girls names are mixed up
Elizabeth Porter was indeed born Sept 5 1889 to John Porter and Elizabeth Mullen....BUT
She could EASILY be the one born to John Porter/Ann McIntyre in 1879!!
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I’m looking for any information on John Ferries family
JOHN FERRIE was born Abt. 1857 in Donegal. He married Margaret Porter on the 28 Apr 1904 in BURT Co. Donegal, daughter of JOHN PORTER and ELIZABETH MULLEN. She was born 06 Sep 1889 in Carnamoyle Donegal. John was 47 when got married and Margaret 24 and I think they had two children and came from the area of Muff. I've got a lot on Margaret's family.
Thanks for any help
Joe
Where did you get that she was the daughter of JOHN PORTER and ELIZABETH MULLEN from??
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My side is Porters from Muff the information I got from http://donegalgenealogy.com census1901/1911Carnamoyle and was also sent John and Elizabeth's marriage certificate from Iskaheen Kilderry Roman Catholic Church 1878. Fathers names John Porter and Denis Mullen
I can see there is a difference in the dates which I never looked at. Margaret is the only one in which I can find no other information apart from who I was told she married and possible had children?
Certainly the birth register throws up a spanner stating Elizabeth was born in 1894 Sept 5th the census 1911 she is age 15 (1896) She died in 1972 True Ireland buried in Muff graveyard plot No 51. Something is mixed?
thanks
Joe
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Margaret could EASILY be the one born to John Porter/Ann McIntyre in 1879!!
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Elizabeth (Lizzie) born 15th February 1896 at Carnamoyle.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02183/1826280.pdf
KG
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Is this your family?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Kilderry/Carnamoyle/1190096/
You know what happened to all the children except Maggie is that correct?
You were told she married an older man and had two children, yes?
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Elizabeth (Lizzie) born 15th February 1896 at Carnamoyle.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02183/1826280.pdf
KG
I wonder if this could be the same error as happened on one of mine
I have a boy registered as Jane, which was his mother''s name, could Elizabeth have registered Margaret as Elizabeth by mistake.
People did tend to get a bit flustered with officialdom.
Ah me head I'm getting my years mixed up, one of the Elizabeth might be in fact Margaret registered as Elizabeth in error
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As per Church Register
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Yes that’s them. Three died in Glasgow and the rest Donegal/Dublin, two sisters never got married Sarah and Elizabeth. I had found two birth certificates for a Elizabeth Porter same father and mother, Sept 5 1889 and Feb 15 1896. The mistake in naming would be a better possibility
Thanks again
joe
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Margaret could EASILY be the one born to John Porter/Ann McIntyre in 1879!!
Margaret born to John Porter & Ann McIntyre on 18th October 1878, #487
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02942/2077929.pdf
KG
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Margaret daughter of JOHN PORTER and ELIZABETH MULLEN. according to the 1901 and 1911 census gives her birth as 1889 which does make her 14? The 1911 census says she 22 and unmarried..... so your Margaret obviously is not daughter of JOHN PORTER and ELIZABETH MULLEN!!
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Margaret could EASILY be the one born to John Porter/Ann McIntyre in 1879!!
Margaret born to John Porter & Ann McIntyre on 18th October 1878, #487
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02942/2077929.pdf
KG
I think she could be daughter of this John!!
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The Porter/ Mcintyre family don't live in Carnamoyle
Sarah's birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02062/1788168.pdf
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So your looking for a marriage of Margaret Porter from Carnamoyle to someone as yet unknown, yes?
Or it's the correct marriage and you just had her date of birth incorrect.
I don't see any children for them.
It could be they raised the two children living with them.
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JOHN FERRIE was born Abt. 1857 in Donegal. He married Margaret Porter on the 28 Apr 1904 aged 24 in BURT Co. Donegal, daughter of JOHN PORTER and Ann McIntyre makes more sense......
Margaret daughter of JOHN PORTER and ELIZABETH MULLEN. according to the 1901 and 1911 census gives her birth as 1889 which does make her 14? The 1911 census says she 22 and unmarried..... so your Margaret obviously is not daughter of JOHN PORTER and ELIZABETH MULLEN!!
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The marriage I found to John Ferrie was wrong unless she got married when she was 15yr. So I was only told that she got married and can't find any information on her marriage/death or possible children a brick wall that's been with me for a few years. I think this is correct
From Hallmark
JOHN FERRIE was born Abt. 1857 in Donegal. He married Margaret Porter on the 28 Apr 1904 aged 24 in BURT Co. Donegal, daughter of JOHN PORTER and Ann McIntyre makes more sense.
Thought it might of interest to see what she looked like. I went through the photos I have of the Porters and written on the back of this one is:
Left is May her mother (Annie Docherty)to the right she only had one child. John Ferrie or Fox? beside Maggie holding the baby and Lizzie Porter to the right
joe
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She is 24, dau of John.
A Servant in Lisfannon....but that doesn't necessarily mean it was her home place!
Obviously not daughter of JOHN PORTER and ELIZABETH MULLEN.....
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Marriages of servants
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I don't see any Fox marriage either. Has no one any idea of the child's first name?
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That man doesn't look much older than her.
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These are all Birth reg where mother was nee Porter.... http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ndd/