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Title: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: Chezney on Tuesday 05 February 19 23:35 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

I've found the following details via census records, but I'm struggling to identify the birth record to order the birth certificate for Issac Raby (I have his marriage cert).

Isaac Raby born 1845 in Over, Cambridgeshire
Father: John Raby
Mother: Mary (possibly Fletcher)

I believe Isaac was a twin as his Sister Rebecca was also born the same year.

Other siblings if it helps:
Martha - 1834
Sarah - 1840
Thomas - 1842
Rebecca - 1845
Mary Ann - 1851
Jane - 1853

I can see the birth volume/pages for a number of Isaac's siblings, just his evades me at present.

Any help would be very appreciated.

Kind regards,

Francesca.
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 06 February 19 00:19 GMT (UK)
Failure to register a birth only became a fineable offence in 1874.  Many births prior to that date went unregistered.   There was a small charge for registering a birth - a few old pence.   However - that was a lot of money in those days so many parents chose to put food on the table rather than buy a "piece of paper".

It's not unusual to find birth registrations for some of the children in the same family and not for others 
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 06 February 19 01:18 GMT (UK)
This might seem a bit far fetched but... there are these two Raby children with the same reference umbers and Mother’s maiden name...



RABY, ESTHER       FLETCHER     
GRO Reference: 1844  D Quarter in SAINT IVES UNION  Volume 14  Page 201

    
RABY, GEORGE       FLETCHER     
GRO Reference: 1844  D Quarter in SAINT IVES UNION  Volume 14  Page 201

Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: magslote on Wednesday 06 February 19 07:36 GMT (UK)
1851 over end over st ives
ref  HO107, 1749,320,9.
Margaret.
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: anneb on Wednesday 06 February 19 07:44 GMT (UK)
I've found the date of his baptism in Over parish records but all it says is  2nd March 1845-Raby Isaac
s of John and Mary. Rebecca Raby was baptised the same day as was an elder brother Thomas aged 3.

There is no record of his birth in the CAMDEX index of births, deaths and marriages.
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: Chezney on Wednesday 06 February 19 07:58 GMT (UK)
I've found the date of his baptism in Over parish records but all it says is  2nd March 1845-Raby Isaac
s of John and Mary. Rebecca Raby was baptised the same day as was an elder brother Thomas aged 3.

There is no record of his birth in the CAMDEX index of births, deaths and marriages.

Thank you for this, much appreciated.

What's the reference of the baptism? I'm looking on ancestry and can't find that, they've become very good for parish records. Does it say Rebecca has the same date of birth?
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 06 February 19 08:05 GMT (UK)
It’s on Family Search. No dates of birth, just the date of baptism

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T9-CD39?i=263&cc=1465708
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: Chezney on Wednesday 06 February 19 08:06 GMT (UK)
This might seem a bit far fetched but... there are these two Raby children with the same reference umbers and Mother’s maiden name...



RABY, ESTHER       FLETCHER     
GRO Reference: 1844  D Quarter in SAINT IVES UNION  Volume 14  Page 201

    
RABY, GEORGE       FLETCHER     
GRO Reference: 1844  D Quarter in SAINT IVES UNION  Volume 14  Page 201

That is interesting! Perhaps twins that didn't make it as they're not listed anywhere else. The name Esther appears a few times with this family. So far I've found that George and Martha (Isaac's siblings) both go on to have a daughter called Esther. And they're the first 2 siblings that I've researched.
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: Chezney on Wednesday 06 February 19 08:09 GMT (UK)
It’s on Family Search. No dates of birth, just the date of baptism

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T9-CD39?i=263&cc=1465708

Perfect, thank you.
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 06 February 19 08:14 GMT (UK)
My thinking was that maybe Isaac and rebecca were registered as George and Esther, but then the parents changed their minds!   
Just a theory but I don’t see them subsequently..so far anyway.
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 06 February 19 08:22 GMT (UK)
My thinking was that maybe Isaac and rebecca were registered as George and Esther, but then the parents changed their minds!   
Just a theory but I don’t see them subsequently..so far anyway.

I would agree that this is very likely.   There are no apparent deaths registered for George & Esther
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: Chezney on Wednesday 06 February 19 08:39 GMT (UK)
My thinking was that maybe Isaac and rebecca were registered as George and Esther, but then the parents changed their minds!   
Just a theory but I don’t see them subsequently..so far anyway.

Very interesting and likely theory! I'll get a certificate.

Thank you so much everyone for all your help!
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: anneb on Wednesday 06 February 19 09:31 GMT (UK)
I have the parish records on fiche but they don't give any more details. Sometimes they will give date of birth or if they are twins but not this time.

If the children were born in St Ives they might have been registered in Huntingdonshire as it was a separate county then .
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: magslote on Wednesday 06 February 19 10:26 GMT (UK)
perhaps not very helpful
st ives workhouse union births/deaths
frances raby 67 died 1883 buried at warboys.
james 78 in 1888 buried at warboys.
mary  aged 7 20.3.1845  fever.
thomas 75 in 1855 at st ives.
burials at st ives
1837 william  a cooper .
john 1853, aged30.
sarah 1853 64.
john 76 in 1855.
Margaret.
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: magslote on Wednesday 06 February 19 12:50 GMT (UK)
1851 census, bank of river lark,isleham
william raby, born 1811, isleham
elizabeth1813,sarah1845,james,1848.
robert ellington lodger, 1822
harriet ellington 1823, thorpe, suffolk.
elizabeth ellington, lodger, daughter,1849 Isleham.Margaret.
Title: Re: Isaac Raby Birth Lookup Request Please
Post by: magslote on Thursday 07 February 19 16:30 GMT (UK)
Hello please go to the Suffolk site, all your imfo is on there, yes I know
I have jumped the gun, but I think the ancestors on there are yours.Margaret.