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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Stirlingshire => Topic started by: MJC164EY on Sunday 27 January 19 09:41 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
All I know is he married Irene Joan Ellis in Stafford in 1954.
I think he was born in Scotland as he and his mother had scottish accents.
I would put his birth around 1920-1930.
Can anyone find anything about him?
Hoping..
Mel C
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JOHN MEIKLEJOHN WALKER was born in Falkirk 1926.
You can order his certificate from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Colin
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Snap Colin you just beat me to it.
The certificate will cost £12.00 + Postage.
Dorrie
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HI Mel
Could this connect to your John perhaps?
My grandfather was also called John Meiklejohn Walker. He worked for the Carron Shipping Company and came from Stirling. He married Agnes Miller Crawford in 1901. My father was born in 1913 in Glasgow and the family moved to Harrow Mddx. in the 1920's. My Dad used to say that one of his ancestors was an apothecary in Stirling and a JP. He had an uncle or great uncle who was a chemist and invented Tralee oil, whatever that was. Maybe we are related?
www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/localities.britisles.scotland.sti.general/733.1116/mb.ashx
Hopefully the birth cert mentioned above by Colin and Dorrie will help you work back with confidence.
Monica
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Hi MonicaL,
Anything is possible!!!
I will keep an open mind and see if any evidence can be found.
Thanks to ColC and dowdstree for information.
I think a birth cert is my next move.
Mel C
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Hi,
New to Scotland search.
Am searching for a cousins family ancestors.
John Meiklejohn Walker b1926 Falkirk.
Can any of these be linked to him?
Marriages:
WALKER JOHN MEIKLEJOHN ANDERSON JANE 1927 479/ 151 Falkirk
WALKER JOHN MEIKLEJOHN CRAWFORD AGNES MILLER 1901 644/5 78 Blackfriars
WALKER ANN MEIKLEJOHN WEIR ROBERT 1905 485/A 38 Larbert
Births:
ANN MEIKLEJOHN WALKER b1881
ANNE WALKER b1873 mother BOWMAN
There appear to be a lot of Walkers in Larbert, Falkirk.
Hope someone can find something a possible link to follow.
Mel C
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To be honest, unless someone has knowledge from researching this family, it would be guesswork without the BC of John Meiklejohn Walker b1926 Falkirk which would name both parents with mother's m/s & their date/place of marriage (if they were married).
This one is after his birth "WALKER JOHN MEIKLEJOHN ANDERSON JANE 1927 479/ 151 Falkirk" although it's a possible.
Annie
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Registered under both surnames;
ANDERSON JOHN MEIKLEJOHN 1926
479/ 258 Falkirk
Walker with same ref. no.
So it seems "WALKER JOHN MEIKLEJOHN ANDERSON JANE 1927 479/ 151 Falkirk" are his likely parents & their marriage will give you both parental details with mothers maiden names as well as fathers occs. & witnesses who may be relatives?
Annie
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Just adding this Threads merged to link both posts.
Monica
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Hi,
Thanks to all who read, and those that replied.
It appears, after further investigation, that Meiklejohn, as a middle name, is not that uncommon.
Does anyone know of its origin?
Was it a 'family' name passed on from marriage?
Cheers,
Mel C
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Hi,
Further information.
Apparently John had 2 sisters, Jessie and Sadie.
Their mother was Jean.
Any help in finding family?
Cheers,
Mel C
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Apparently John had 2 sisters, Jessie and Sadie.
Have you looked for them in the births index at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk? Sadie should be easy enough to find.
Their mother was Jean.
The names Jean and Jane are totally interchangeable. So the marriage to Jane Anderson is probably the one you want.
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It appears, after further investigation, that Meiklejohn, as a middle name, is not that uncommon.
Does anyone know of its origin?
Was it a 'family' name passed on from marriage?
The marriage I suggested will help you move back to find whether the name was passed down through the line & whether the maternal or paternal side.
Annie
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The name Meiklejohn is quite common in Scotland.
In some families the grandmothers surname is used as a middle name on one or more of the grandchildren. Also a surname can continue down through the years as a middle name. I have more than one instance in my tree.
Colin
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WALKER JESSIE ROY 1931 Falkirk
No Sadie in Falkirk, one below in Stirlingshire and other elsewhwere.
WALKER SADIE FRASER 1940 Logie (Stirling)
Colin
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This seems a likely chain of events but you will need to check the records.
In 1901 there is a John M Walker age 48 living in Larbert, his wife is Annie Bowman.
His birth on SP.
WALKER JOHN WILLIAM WALKER/ANN MEIKLEJOHN 24/11/1852 Larbert
John & Annie had a son John M Walker he was 22 in 1901. Stat Reg. below.
WALKER JOHN MEIKLEJOHN 1878 Larbert
John senior died.
WALKER JOHN MEIKLEJOHN 63 Died 1915 Larbert
Colin
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Mel C, you need to go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, register and buy a few credits. Use 6 of them to download the marriage certificate of John Meiklejohn Walker and Jane Anderson in 1927. This will tell you the full names of both sets of parents including the mothers' maiden surnames, and then you can progress back a generation and look for their marriage certificates and parents' names. Without getting this easily obtainable information you risk climbing the wrong tree ;)
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Hi,
Thanks to ColC & Forfarian for info. Added to data list.
Jessie Roy Walker is correct as she is found in Stafford later.
Dubious about WALKER SADIE FRASER 1940 Logie (Stirling)
and found her death [seems unmarried]
Sarah Fraser(Ray) Walker
Burial Place Bannockburn, Stirling, Scotland, United Kingdom
wondering why move back to Scotland, if in Stafford, when rest of family stay in England?
Might need to spend money to find details [tight Englishman!!!] and climb correct tree.
Cheers All,
Mel C
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Dubious about WALKER SADIE FRASER 1940 Logie (Stirling)
and found her death [seems unmarried]
Sarah Fraser(Ray) Walker
Burial Place Bannockburn, Stirling, Scotland, United Kingdom
When?
The only death of a Sadie Fraser registered in Scotland is Sadie Fraser McBean or Gordon, aged 62, in Aberchirder in 1969. She will be Sadie Fraser McBean, born in Forres in 1906 so nothing to do with your Walkers.
wondering why move back to Scotland, if in Stafford, when rest of family stay in England?
Sometimes people get cremated and their ashes sent home to where they were originally from.
Might need to spend money to find details [tight Englishman!!!] and climb correct tree.
:)
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Hi Forfarian,
Data from familysearch:
BillionGraves Index
Name Sarah Fraser(Ray) Walker
Event Type Burial
Event Place Bannockburn, Stirling, Scotland, United Kingdom
Cemetery Bannockburn
Birth Date 18 Jan 1940
Death Date 05 May 2000
Could be incorrect data, not sure it's on our tree!
Mel C
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Ah, Sarah, not Sadie. I should have noticed from your previous post.
Sarah Fraser Walker or Russell or Cochrane or Drzekowski died in Stirling in 2000, aged 60, mother's maiden name Walker. I suppose Ray must be a pet name or nickname. Born 1940 in St Ninians, Stirling, reference 488.1/30.
She seems to have married Hugh Smith Cochrane or Drzekowski in 1959 and Michael O'Brien Russell in 1975.
Sadie Fraser Walker's birth was registered in Logie*, Stirling in 1940, reference 485b/34.
It is just conceivable that they are the same person. From Sarah's death record, her mother's surname was Walker. That might indicate that she was illegitimate. If her mother lived in, say, the district of Logie but the baby was born in, say, St Ninians, the birth would have to be registered in St Ninians. However if the baby's parents' usual residence was in Logie, the St Ninians Registrar had to send the details on to the Logie Registrar, who would also include them in the Logie register of births, so you would get two listings of one birth.
The snag with that is that in this case one certificate has the baby's name as Sarah and the other one is Sadie. Now, I believe that the name Sadie originated as a diminutive of Sarah (see http://www.whatsinaname.net/php/search.php?action=search2&search_name=sadie) but if the second Registrar was copying from details sent by the first, both should be identical. Unless the baby's name was changed, and the change notified to one Registrar but not to the other.
There is, fortunately, an easy way to check all this, which is to look at both original certificates. You can't do that online, but if someone is planning a visit to the Scotland's People Centre they could easily do that for you.
*PS There are several districts in Scotland called Logie or Logie-something. This one is the parish of Logie, which is partly in Perthshire, partly in Stirlingshire and even has a small area in Clackmannanshire. It was listed under Perthshire until 1892, then under Stirlingshire until 1970. You'll struggle to find Logie on a map, but the biggest place in Logie is Bridge of Allan.
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Hi,
I did find this useful for 1881 stirlingshire census.
http://tompaterson.co.uk/testhome.php
if any use to anyone.
Mel C
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I'm sure there's lots of useful stuff there, but the LDS transcription of the 1881 census for the whole of Scotland, not just the parts of that web site, is at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and can be viewed free of charge.
Likewise the complete Statistical Accounts of Scotland are all available to browse free of charge at http://stataccscot.edina.ac.uk/static/statacc/dist/home.
Why bother to duplicate what is already available free of charge at source?
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Further to reply#3 of January 2019, update after research:
John Meiklejohn Walker mmn Bowman b1878 m 1901 Agnes Miller Crawford
Charles Edward Walker mmn Bowman b1880 m 1905 Jessie Roy
[John Meiklejohn Walker mmn Roy b1905 m 1927 Jane Anderson]
so yes there is a family link.
Would like to know Walker/Crawford family details, as struggling to find it.
cheers,
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Irene and John were my grandparents, does anyone have any links to them?