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Title: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: Airdriehunter on Wednesday 23 January 19 19:39 GMT (UK)
I am researching a Victor Julius Moller 1865 who I think left Cardiff or Stockport area around 1913 with wife Eliza and some children. They come back and forward from Aukland New Zealond to England . I think Eliza Moller died in 1917 in New Zealand. At a later stage I see him travelling with a lady named Ethel Kate Moller. I wonder if she could be a second wife. The age doesn't fit to be his daughter?
Thanks
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 January 19 01:41 GMT (UK)
Here is what I have found so far.......

1918/2608   Grace   Burton   Victor Julius   Moller   

1924/1061   Ethel Kate   Choules   Victor Julius   Moller   


Death:

1923
/7774   Moller   Grace   59Y


Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 January 19 01:45 GMT (UK)
Her death notice & obituary.........

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19230903.2.5?query=grace%20moller&start_date=01-01-1923&end_date=31-12-1923&snippet=true

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19230907.2.138?query=grace%20moller&start_date=01-01-1923&end_date=31-12-1923&snippet=true



Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 January 19 01:52 GMT (UK)

1970/42028   Moller   Ethel Kate   92Y

Purewa Cemetery details:

Surname   MOLLER
First Names   Ethel Kate
Age   Unknown
Gender   Female
Date of Death   
Religion   
Serial No   19142
Date of Service and/or Interment   21 Aug 1970
Type Of Service   
Funeral Director   Sibuns Funeral Advisors, 582 Remuera Road, Remuera, AUCKLAND
Ashes Disposal   Returned
Book Of Remembrance   No

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 January 19 01:58 GMT (UK)
Death:

1948/16449   Moller   Victor Julius   83Y


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 January 19 01:59 GMT (UK)
Probate record (contains will) for Victor J. MOLLER - 1948

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH9-G967?i=286&cc=1865481&cat=2240878

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 January 19 02:03 GMT (UK)
Probate record for Grace MOLLER - 1923 - (wife of Victor Julius MOLLER)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSS4-QQL8-G?i=455&cc=1865481


   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 January 19 02:10 GMT (UK)
Death of Elizabeth Moller.......

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/THS19170402.2.2?query=victor%20moller&phrase=2&snippet=true


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 January 19 02:21 GMT (UK)

Cemetery Name   Shortland (Thames)
Cemetery ID   3
Area Code   PUBL
Sub Area Code   PLOT
Plot Number   3169
Plot Status   Used
Capacity   0
Surname   MOLLER
Forenames   Elizabeth
Full Name   MOLLER, Elizabeth
Gender   Female
Age   54
Age Unit   Years
Date Of Birth   
Date Of Death   
Date Of Burial   02/04/1917


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 January 19 02:49 GMT (UK)
Burial record for Victor Julius Moller
Date of birth
Unknown

Occupation
Retired

Date of death
11 March 1948

Age at death
83 years

Gender
Male

Region
West

Cemetery name
Waikumete Cemetery

Remains type
Ash

Date of cremation
12 March 1948

Funeral director
Watney Sibuns And Sons Limited


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 January 19 03:42 GMT (UK)
Probate [1970] re Ethel Kate MOLLER.......

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=13100911


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 January 19 03:51 GMT (UK)
A son of Victor & Elizabeth, Gilbert Victor MOLLER, killed WW1........

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/OAM19170629.2.41?end_date=31-12-1920&phrase=2&query=victor+moller&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1839&type=ARTICLE

http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/C10895?n=moller&ordinal=14&from=%2Fwar-memorial%2Fonline-cenotaph%2Fsearch

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/444413/moller,-gilbert-victor/

Added: WW1 file......

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=21376477&digital=yes

Added:

MOLLER, GILBERT  VICTOR
     GILBERT     [Mother's maiden name.]
GRO Reference: 1893  M Quarter in KING'S NORTON  Volume 06C  Page 507   

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 January 19 05:16 GMT (UK)
Marriages Dec 1887 

GILBERT    Elizabeth        King's Norton
 6c   746
 MOLLER    Victor Julius        King's N.
 6c   746

Other children?


MOLLER, BESSIE  GERTRUDE     GILBERT     

GRO Reference: 1890  D Quarter in KINGS NORTON  Volume 06C  Page 422   

MOLLER, ETHEL  RUTH     GILBERT     

GRO Reference: 1888  J Quarter in KINGS MORTON  Volume 06C  Page 465   

MOLLER, GLADYS  MARY     GILBERT     

GRO Reference: 1889  J Quarter in KINGS NORTON  Volume 06C  Page 507   




[?] MOLLER, LEONARD  JEFFREY     GILBERT     

GRO Reference: 1902  S Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 402   
      
Not sure if Leonard belongs or not but here is his probate record:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=17015049

Cemetery record:
https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=FE170790E82D790B841231EDBF5BB578

And that for his wife?
https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/cemeteries/Pages/RecordDetails.aspx?recordId=BEB4264862351845C3BB0624C77567C4

1993/49394   Moller   Leonard Jeffrey   10 August 1902



Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 January 19 06:18 GMT (UK)
Two marriages for Leonard Jeffrey?

1925/8058   Eileen Maud   Boyd   Leonard Geofrey   Moller   

1923/6150   Margaret Ann Christina   Oag   Leonard Geofrey   Moller   

Death:
1924/4912   Moller   Margaret Ann Christina   27Y

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19240902.2.5?end_date=31-12-1924&phrase=0&query=leonard+moller&start_date=01-01-1924


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: Janette on Thursday 24 January 19 07:40 GMT (UK)
In 1913 Victor left London for Sydney aboard the Benalla he was accompanied by Wife,Elizabeth and children Leonard Godfrey aged 10 and Arthur Stanley aged 8.His occupation was given a hotel prop'r

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Possible 2nd Marriage
Post by: Airdriehunter on Thursday 24 January 19 09:28 GMT (UK)
Thankyou all for the research. Very interesting. That all fits in and now I have lots to go on. His first wife was Eliza Gilbert. My interest is in his daughter Gladys M Moller who married a Herbert Augustus Howard in Stockport England.  So now I know I am on the right track and can look for the Howards now. Thanks again.