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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Montgomeryshire => Topic started by: sianb on Sunday 20 January 19 21:25 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone tell me please what a Supervisor might have done in Machynlleth in 1796. I have a John Packer described as a 'Supervisor' on his daughter's marriage certificate in 1796.
Thank you.
Sian
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You may have the following already:-
The marriage bond is available at NLW, which might help - http://discover.library.wales/primo_library/libweb/action/search.do?vid=44WHELF_NLW_VU1
The birth of their son, Samuel in 1789, also calls him a supervisor. His marriage in Somerset in 1769 is only a transcription and gives no occupation - John Packer and Martha Chaffey.
David
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A possibility, given results of various Google searches suggest that it could be an Excise Officer. See, for example:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=243376.0
Gadget
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Thanks DCB, I hadn't found his marriage.
Gadget thanks for that idea. I wish I could find a directory for the area.I'll try Somerset as well.
Siân
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In case you haven't seen the baptism of Samuel:-
Samuel, son of John Packer, Supervisor, and Martha His wife, formerly Martha Chaffey. Born 1st January 1789 and baptised on 6th January.
David
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There are some burials in Machylleth which probably link to Sarah and Samuel but the father is William:-
John son of Wm Packer, supervisor, died 11th July and buried 14th July 1792.
Elizabeth daughter of Wm Packer, supervisor, 10 days old, died 9th April 1787 and buried 16th.
David
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Hi
I am looking specifically for John Packer's job - supervisor.
I am descended from John and Martha's daughter Sarah and her first marriage to David Morgan. I have all their dates and haven't looked for her siblings as I don't need their info yet. Today I have managed to confirm all Sarah's dates including her second marriage where other researchers have her dying in 1801,she remarried an Evan Rowland in 1809 - her first husband having died in 1806.
There don't seem to be any directories for this area and the late 1700's and early 1800's. Thanks for all the help.
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I've checked Welsh newspapers online but nothing obvious. They start in 1804 though.
Gadget
Add -not in the Welsh Wills either :-\
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A possibility, given results of various Google searches suggest that it could be an Excise Officer. See, for example:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=243376.0
Gadget
I am with gadget on this, is appears that “ supervisor of excise” was a job description in the 1700s,
Another extensive thread on rootschat refers to to a question about “ widow of a supervisor of excise”
Mike
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Googling “supervisor of excise history” will throw up the other rootschat thread, also on British history online pages from a supervisors book, giving a flavour of the huge number of items liable to tax.
No easy task in this very welsh town, a popular smugglers route :)
Mike
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Thank you for the help.
May be a daft question, but what would they be smuggling through Machynlleth, it was a market town? I think I need a good social history of the town as well. Any recommendations, I've not come across much online.
Mike, I will Google that.
Sian
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Thank you for the help.
May be a daft question, but what would they be smuggling through Machynlleth, it was a market town? I think I need a good social history of the town as well. Any recommendations, I've not come across much online.
Mike, I will Google that.
Sian
Barrels of French brandy were popular, up the Dovey estuary on the tide, then on horses thro the town and inland from there.
Further down the coast at Solva in Pembrokeshire the old smugglers paths are clearly noted, one passes across a friends farmyard
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:D Wow. Where there's a will there's a way!
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Probably not of interest at this stage, although it might help to trace his early career and occupation, but I think I have found Sarah's baptism, given her age on the second marriage.
11th February 1771 at Evershot, Dorset, daughter of John and Martha. Approximately 8 miles from East Coker, where John married Martha.
Also Mary on 12th May 1773, born 9th November 1772, and John on 11th February 1776.
At Cerne Abbas, Robert Chaffey Packer and Elizabeth Packer on 22nd August 1785. He is on the 1851 census in East Coker.
What might help, although an expensive gamble, is that Robert, widower, married again in 1847 to Mary Crode in Netherbury, Dorset. It confirms that his father was John but, unfortunately, only a transcription. The certificate might help to clarify his father's occupation. His former wife, Phillis died in 1842.
It might be worth a post on the Dorset board, in case anyone can view the image.
Memorial inscription East Coker:
Coped Stone, flaking and falling apart, nothing legible) Robert PACKER, born Jan: 9, 1784, died Feb -- 1855 (PR: buried 17 Feb 1855, aged 75). Phillis Packer, born Jan: 13, 178-, died March 22, 1842 (PR: aged 60, i.e. born Jan 13, 1782)
David
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Thank you David. I had some, but not all of this information.
Siân
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Just seen this and chipping in my two penn'orth - I live in Taunton in Somerset and there is a Packer family here. If you want me to do any look-ups at the Heritage Centre, I can do that.
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Thankyou mrsfamily. That is very kind of you. I shall get checking.
Best regards
Sian