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Title: Does this appear to be the same woman Sarah H. Allen ?
Post by: bullfrog1995 on Friday 18 January 19 23:12 GMT (UK)
Greetings everyone,

I was organizing family photos and I found a tintype photo that I had never seen before. At first I was somewhat disappointed because I have no clue who the subjects in the photograph are. But then I realized that the woman in the center seemed familiar.

The woman on the right I know for a fact is my great-great-great-great-grandmother Sarah H. Allen, because the photo on the right had her name written on the back of it. This forum has always done a fabulous job at restoring and dating photographs so I wondered what everyone thinks. Do you think that this is the same woman, photographed decades apart?

Thank you all in advance for your time and help.
Title: Re: Does this appear to be the same woman Sarah H. Allen ?
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 19 January 19 11:11 GMT (UK)
It's a yes from me.
Carol
Title: Re: Does this appear to be the same woman Sarah H. Allen ?
Post by: a-l on Saturday 19 January 19 11:19 GMT (UK)
It looks like the same lady to me
Title: Re: Does this appear to be the same woman Sarah H. Allen ?
Post by: dublin1850 on Saturday 19 January 19 11:22 GMT (UK)
Looks like the same person to me too.
Title: Re: Does this appear to be the same woman Sarah H. Allen ?
Post by: jim1 on Saturday 19 January 19 11:26 GMT (UK)
I'm not sure about the "decades apart" bit. Did we date the 2nd ?
If not can we see all of it ?
Title: Re: Does this appear to be the same woman Sarah H. Allen ?
Post by: josey on Saturday 19 January 19 12:45 GMT (UK)
LH looks younger than RH but collar style [to me] looks very similar. Will await dating from the experts.

I would say related but not the same woman mainly as LH has ears that turn over at the top [left more than right] & the right ear of RH does not. Also, LH looks a bit younger but eyes are more hooded.
Title: Re: Does this appear to be the same woman Sarah H. Allen ?
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 19 January 19 13:11 GMT (UK)
Sorry, Josey, I agree with the others. It looks like the same person to me.

Gadget
Title: Re: Does this appear to be the same woman Sarah H. Allen ?
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 19 January 19 13:19 GMT (UK)

Yes, I think it is the same person.

Sandra  ;)
Title: Re: Does this appear to be the same woman Sarah H. Allen ?
Post by: josey on Saturday 19 January 19 13:33 GMT (UK)
 ;D ;D always willing to be corrected - or stand out from the crowd  ::) ::).
Title: Re: Does this appear to be the same woman Sarah H. Allen ?
Post by: a-l on Saturday 19 January 19 17:43 GMT (UK)
;D ;D always willing to be corrected - or stand out from the crowd  ::) ::).


I wasn't positive at first glance josey because I thought the nose looked different. I think it's down to the angle for the nose.
Title: Re: Does this appear to be the same woman Sarah H. Allen ?
Post by: John-76 on Saturday 19 January 19 17:51 GMT (UK)
Sorry, but another no vote.  I did a few repairs to get a better comparison. And after comparing eyes and nose, I agree with Josey that they might very well be related, but not the same person. Both are very distinguished and the one on the right seems slightly older. 

The thing that puzzles me is the item which almost seems to be a funny hat on the lady on the left.  After looking for awhile it appears that it might be something like a diploma being held by someone behind her, possibly wearing a suit/vest? Maybe a school graduation...?
Title: Re: Does this appear to be the same woman Sarah H. Allen ?
Post by: bullfrog1995 on Monday 21 January 19 23:48 GMT (UK)
Hey everyone, thanks for all of your input. I guess I may never be able to prove that they are the same person, but having been part of other tintypes my family has passed down I will still preserve it.  Thanks for all the guesses though. The certainly seem to share facial features, I believe.

I wanted to follow up with a full version of the tintype for everyone to see if it helps in any way. Not sure when this is taken but I would assume 1860's-1870's because it's a tintype but I could be wrong.

Thanks again everyone. (had some fun resizing the image, hope this upload's correctly)
 
Title: Re: Does this appear to be the same woman Sarah H. Allen ?
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 22 January 19 10:37 GMT (UK)
It's 1870's.
As tintypes are in reverse this is how they would have been posed.