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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: carlotta on Sunday 13 January 19 15:29 GMT (UK)
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I have a Mary Jane Cassidy (1871 Glenarm - 1941 Larne) that married a James McGarry (1863 Tyrone - 1914 Larne) and has 2 children Susan and Catherine. Susan emigrated to the US and Catherine died as a spinster and is interred in Greenland Cemetery Larne 1972.
Mary Jane McGarry then married a John Graham (1864 Larne - 1935 Larne) and had Mary Margaret Graham in 1920.
I am looking for any info on Mary Margaret Graham who was born 27 Aug 1920 in St John's Place Larne. She was Roman Catholic and I suspect was baptised in St MacNissi's Larne. Any suggestions of how to proceed further?
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Do you know whether she married or not...there is a probate record for a Mary Margaret Graham in 1961.
Carol
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Thanks for that! Pretty sure this isn't her. I suspect she may have married in England according to someone who was in touch with St MacNissi's Church - they apparently have no baptism record but they did have a sacrament of marriage 1949 Holy Ghost Church Basinstoke UK.
Holy Ghost church cannot find it, perhaps the date is wrong.
My attempts to email St MacNissi's were unsuccessful and I dint want to be a pain as its not my religion. Do you think it would be OK just to turn up on their doorstep or should I call first?
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Oh Ok...I think I would call first which would give them time to take a look for you...I can't see a matching tree for her on Ancestry.
Carol
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Poor Mary Jane, 49 years old when she gave birth to Mary Margaret ?
Was there a death notice for Mary Jane Graham when she passed away in 1941 ?
Were there any death notices or obituaries for the half sisters - Susan and Catherine which might have mentioned Mary ?
There was no Mary Margaret Graham marriage in Basingstoke in 1949 or near that date that I could see. :-\
Sandra
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I have a newspaper entry for catherine but no mention of anyone. Also her death cert lists the informant as HJ McGovern Person ? the body to be buried 15D Shane House Larne. Cant make out what is ? Shane House is long demolished.
I agree poor woman giving birth in those days at all......
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Have you traced Susan McGarry or whatever her married name was ? Could Mary Margaret have gone to her half-sister in the USA ?
Sandra
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Used every variation of names and this was the only one found on FreeBmd:
Marriages Dec 1950
Graham Mary M Watson Thanet 5b 1495
If anyone can find her...Sandra Can ;D
Carol
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Eric Jack A Watson - 26 September 1920 - passed away February 2000 Thanet with Dover Kent.
Register Number A7E - District and Subdistrict 5751A
Haven't found a Mary M Watson in that area - nothing shown for her birth date 27 August 1920 (unless I missed it)
Sandra
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Yes I have traced the sister and its actually her family that I am undertaking this research for.
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Have you found the death notice or obituary for her sister Susan ?
Sandra
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Eric Jack A Watson - 26 september 1920 - passed away February 2000 Thanet with Dover Kent.
Register Number A7E - District and Subdistrict 5751A
Haven't found a Mary M Watson in that area - nothing shown for her birth date 27 August 1920 (unless I missed it)
Sandra
I can't either...wonder if she used Margaret Mary sometimes. Nothing useful on Free Family Search...the birth registration is there but no parent's names.
Carol
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Have you found the death notice or obituary for her sister Susan ?
Sandra
Does not seem to be one - i used Find My Past Newspaper archives
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This would be your McGarry/McGarrey family in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Glenarm/Mark_Street/194085/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001556653/
Sandra
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Sure is!!! Amazes me how people can find something it takes me weeks to do lol
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You probably have this - but Graham is such a common surname every where it could be very difficult to trace Mary Margaret Graham - living in the hope of finding her by going round the houses - so to speak....................this would appear to be her sister Susan on a Canadian Passenger List.
Susan McGarry born 1906 immigrated Glasgow Scotland to Halifax Nova Scotia on the Athenia - arriving Canada 4 December 1927 - going to a Canadian Government Hostel - 72 Carleton Street Toronto. Mother named as Mrs Jane McGarry 5 St John Place W Larne.
Sandra
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In the searches - this lady is popping up - Susan Doyle.......................married 8 years by 1940
1940 - 37 Drive Queens, New York.
James Doyle 42 born 1898 Eire.
Susan Doyle 33 born 19-07 Northern Ireland.
Rose Mary Doyle 8 born 1932 NY
Jane Donahue 83 lodger born Ireland 1857.
and then the daughter Rosemary Doyle pops up unmarried - FIND A GRAVE
Saint Charles Cemetery East Farmingdale, Suffolk County, New York.
Plot Holy Family Mausoleum, Section: HOFM, Crypt: 216F, Grave: 216F
and her father James Doyle (same cemetery) 24 March 1988
Saint Charles Cemetery East Farmingdale, Suffolk County, New York, USA Show Map
Plot Section 026, Row: VV, Grave: 155
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/177342678/james-j-doyle
and mother Susan - 2 September 1969
Saint Charles Cemetery East Farmingdale, Suffolk County, New York.
Plot Section 026, Row VV, Grav: 155
Rosemary's obit doesn't say anything - No obits yet for her parents.
https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/jackson-heights-ny/rosemary-doyle-6196650
Sandra
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and a wiki tree with photos of all three - is this yours ? Always nice to put a face to a name - what a bonus ;)
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/McGarry-166
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Doyle-1425
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Doyle-2235
Sandra
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Nice work Sandra.
Carol
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Actually shows the marriage date which I hadn't come across :-\- — married 14 Sep 1930 in New York. ;)
Sandra
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Great work. I have all this info but I am astounded you found it so quickly.
It’s really only Mary Margaret info is missing. She def did not go to America.
Thanks for the info it does reinforce my research.
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New York Passenger List - Belfast to New York - 26 September 1937 - Cameronia - Susan aged 31 years and Rosemary aged 5 years - mother was Mary Graham 5 St Johns Place Larne.
Returning to 33 -55 - 105 th Street. (Sadly no Mary Margaret with them on this trip)
Sandra
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Have you tried Old Fulton Postcards for obits ?
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
Sandra
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Have you followed Robert Strawhorn who was the step-son on the 1911 census ?
A few anc trees popping up now - one has headstone photo for the Doyles.
Sandra
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Yes he is Robert Cassidy. I surmise he is the Robert strawhorn in the census of 1911 and his stepfather named him maybe according to local rumour. His birth certificate says he was born illegitimate to Mary Jane Cassidy- strawhorn is a local hairdresser aged 20 when he was born. Who knows I can’t think of any other reason he would be named strawhorn
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Couldnt see anything further under Strawhorn - did come across a headstone inscription for a Robert Cassidy 1903 Ireland - passed away January 1981 - but nothing to connect him so far - probably more Robert Cassidy born 1903 ::)
FIND A GRAVE
Killingbeck Roman Catholic Cemetery Killingbeck, Metropolitan Borough of Leeds, West Yorkshire, England - Plot BU370
Sandra
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I have a newspaper entry for catherine but no mention of anyone. Also her death cert lists the informant as HJ McGovern Person ? the body to be buried 15D Shane House Larne. Cant make out what is ? Shane House is long demolished.
person causing the body to be buried
Reply #1 Probate record for a Mary Margaret Graham in 1961.
GRONI lists Margaret Graham ded 3 May 1961 as age 81.
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Hi
What does causing the body to be buried mean? Excuse my ignorance.
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Just means person making funeral arrangements.
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Just means person making funeral arrangements.
Thank you ;D
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Who was the informant on the mothers death certificate - was that Catherine. ?
Sandra
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No she died in District Hospital so it was a member of staff.
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I am a relative of Robert Cassidy's, Mary's brother.
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No she died in District Hospital so it was a member of staff.
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As carlotta said, no obvious death notice for Mary Jane Graham, but did come across a 1922 newspaper item concerning her and husband John being involved in a bit of conflict with neighbours in St Johns Place.
Also spotted someone writing this (via google search):
Here's the information I have: Mary Margaret O'Brien (nee Graham, born Larne 1920) and Richard O'Brien (married in Holy Ghost Church, Basingstoke, 1949).
which apparently was part of a 'looking for children or grandchildren of' appeal in the Carrick Times in 2018.
Can see a potential marriage in Hammersmith district in 1945, Richard O'Brien/Margaret M Graham
Also spotted this:. https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/Hammersmith/HolyGhostandStStephens
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Hello Wardy33,
Welcome to RootsChat. I am very sorry that you failed to receive a response from the original poster I have received contact from them saying that they no longer wishing to pursue their family history further.
You email address was removed because posting in a public manner is never safe as this is how spammers pick up on your email details.
Regards
Sarah
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As carlotta said, no obvious death notice for Mary Jane Graham, but did come across a 1922 newspaper item concerning her and husband John being involved in a bit of conflict with neighbours in St Johns Place.
Also spotted someone writing this (via google search):
Here's the information I have: Mary Margaret O'Brien (nee Graham, born Larne 1920) and Richard O'Brien (married in Holy Ghost Church, Basingstoke, 1949).
which apparently was part of a 'looking for children or grandchildren of' appeal in the Carrick Times in 2018.
Can see a potential marriage in Hammersmith district in 1945, Richard O'Brien/Margaret M Graham
Also spotted this:. https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/Hammersmith/HolyGhostandStStephens
Hi Scotmum, thank you for the information.
Could you forward me the web address for where you found the possible marriage please.
Thank you.
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Hello Wardy33,
Welcome to RootsChat. I am very sorry that you failed to receive a response from the original poster I have received contact from them saying that they no longer wishing to pursue their family history further.
You email address was removed because posting in a public manner is never safe as this is how spammers pick up on your email details.
Regards
Sarah
Ok, thank you Sarah for clarifying this.
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Hello wardy33
The marriage index on www.freebmd.org.uk then cross checked it on www.findmypast.com .