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Title: Help finding my father's missing sibling
Post by: Cumbrianangel on Friday 11 January 19 23:59 GMT (UK)
On the 1911 census my grandma has stated that they'd had 6 live children, 5 living, 1 had died. I have searched and researched for a sibling born between their marriage in November 1901 (their first child was born February 1902) up to the census date but can't find a birth or death in either of the districts I know they would have been registered in.
A friend told me that they had a baby daughter in hospital in the '60's and the birth was never registered. Was this illegal? And surely you required a death certificate to bury a child?
Any help would be very much appreciated.
The parents were Jane (nee Owen) and John Henry WRIGHT who married in Bermondsey where their 1st 2 children were born (St. Luke's). They then had another 3 children when the moved to Belvedere Kent (Dartford).
Title: Re: Help finding my father's missing sibling
Post by: avm228 on Saturday 12 January 19 00:14 GMT (UK)
Some people are likely to have included stillborn children in their 1911 fertility numbers, though those children would have had no birth or death registrations.  It is also likely that some children who died very soon after birth (so not stillborn) were not registered, even though technically they ought to have been.
Title: Re: Help finding my father's missing sibling
Post by: avm228 on Saturday 12 January 19 00:16 GMT (UK)
Can you set out the family’s known dates (marriage, and the 5 known children)? It would make it easier to help you find a missing one.
Title: Re: Help finding my father's missing sibling
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Saturday 12 January 19 00:21 GMT (UK)
Elsie Ethel 1902
John James Victor 1903
Leonard Hector 1905
Albert Henry 1906
Frank William 1909
Frederick Robert 1909

Are these the children?
Title: Re: Help finding my father's missing sibling
Post by: Cumbrianangel on Saturday 12 January 19 00:24 GMT (UK)
Yes they are Durhamgirl. Frederick Robert (my dad) and Frank William were twins.
Title: Re: Help finding my father's missing sibling
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Saturday 12 January 19 00:27 GMT (UK)
Are one of the children listed missing from your research?

Leonard Hector died in 1906 OND Dartford 2a 338
Title: Re: Help finding my father's missing sibling
Post by: Cumbrianangel on Saturday 12 January 19 00:30 GMT (UK)
Yes! I blame it on the lateness of my post but I've just spotted Leonard Hector. Where was his birth registered?
Title: Re: Help finding my father's missing sibling
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Saturday 12 January 19 00:33 GMT (UK)
Leonard Hector Wright 1905 AMJ Dartford 2a 594
Title: Re: Help finding my father's missing sibling
Post by: Cumbrianangel on Saturday 12 January 19 00:35 GMT (UK)
Thank you SO much. I will apply for a birth cert tomorrow and keep my fingers crossed. The fact I couldn't find the missing child has haunted me for ages. Poor grandma, my grandad died of TB aged just 42 in 1916 then Frank, my dads twin, died as the result of an accident on a bike aged 16. Times were very hard, grandma had to take in washing to make ends meet. Good night and thank you again 🙂
Title: Re: Help finding my father's missing sibling
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Saturday 12 January 19 00:44 GMT (UK)
Glad to help  :)

Information found on general register office website - typed in surname, mother's maiden name, 1901-1911 and looked for location you gave to find the children.
Title: Re: Help finding my father's missing sibling
Post by: iolaus on Saturday 12 January 19 19:17 GMT (UK)

A friend told me that they had a baby daughter in hospital in the '60's and the birth was never registered. Was this illegal? And surely you required a death certificate to bury a child?
Any help would be very much appreciated.

If a baby is stillborn you get given a certificate of stillbirth rather than a birth and death certificate - which enables you to bury the baby
In some places the registrar will visit you in the hospital and do the paperwork with you there and then, so they may have registered the baby without actually realising (I also know this happened fairly recently with a baby who died soon after birth, the registrar visited them while she was recovering in hospital and registered both his birth and death)