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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: pineapple88 on Saturday 29 December 18 00:00 GMT (UK)
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Hi all
Can anyone make out what the writing says on the left hand side column of this entry of birth I have for a relative it is from 1842.
Thanks for any help / guesses or accurate responses.I would be most grateful,
Best rgds,
pineapple
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Mmm...
1st word of 1st line looks like Twenty
1st word of 2nd line looks like Second
Could be a note by the Registrar for his data collection i.e. possibly;
Twenty First Girl (maybe born that month)
Second Lawful Girl (maybe the couples 2nd child/daughter)
It may not be anything like that but looks something along those lines as a thought :-\
Annie
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Not sure, but wondered if the top line said - Twenty four - and then the initials GK or GR
sami
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Thanks for this, gives me something to go on.
Best regards
pineapple
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Not sure, but wondered if the top line said - Twenty four - and then the initials GK or GR
Ahh, yes Sami, maybe GR (General Registrar/Register)?
I just noticed my own error the 'first' should have been 'four'...truthfully! ;D
Annie
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I see the words, twenty four and present family. :)
Jamjar
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Not any help but the side notes look like a different hand i.e. can't compare?
Annie
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The first one is twenty four [initialled] which is a cross reference to the 24 appearing above the mother’s surname Smith, which must have been added as an amendment. This is the registrar initialling the amendment in the margin.
If there is a second amendment corresponding to the second margin entry we can’t see it in the cropped image. It’s twenty something (followed again by the initials) but I can’t quite make it out.
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Well spotted avm! :)
Annie
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Yes very well spotted avm and you are absolutely correct - there is a second amendment on closer inspection. (am not sure why they have put 24 and 25 over those points) any pointers or reasons for this ?Thanks so all
Great handwriting interpretation skills on here - I couldn't make it out at all.
thanks all
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The numbers are just sequential numbers in a series of amendments made by the registrar.
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ok thanks avm .
Thanks again for your help.
Kind regards
pineapple
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This looks like a PDF copy from the GRO, and if so it will be taken from a return sent in by the local register office rather than an original register. I'm not sure exactly what the protocol was, but as there aren't any obvious errors or corrections in this extract, it looks as though the returns might have had to reproduce the numbers relating to changes, but not the incorrect details which had been changed/corrected.
Incidentally, the GRO have indexed this as Heeling Smith; Yorkshire BMD have it as Keeling Smith, which is what the extract shows.
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Thanks for this Arthurk. Yes I saw there was discrepancy with the Heeling/Keeling name. I had to order from the GRO as Heeling Smith even though I knew it must be Keeling from other sources. But the death cert I have also now ordered and for that GRO have got it correct Keeling Smith same child.
Thanks for the points about the local register office compared to original register - good points.
I did notice on the record it looks like the Smith name has been gone over in thicker pen both times just slightly.
Thanks again