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Title: john greenop
Post by: susanhwg on Saturday 22 December 18 10:18 GMT (UK)
 :)hi i am related to the greenops from langdale westmorland, ulverston various places in the lake district. I believe i am related to John Greenop. i would be grateful if anyone could assist with any more information.
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 22 December 18 11:15 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat susanhwg.

Can you provide more information. When when was John Greenop born?

I am going away for Christmas so may not answer you but I am sure others on here will help you.

Trish :)



 
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: susanhwg on Saturday 22 December 18 13:17 GMT (UK)
to the best of my knowledge John greenop was born in 1818 and died in 1878. he was married to a Mary Kirkby. He had various children and one was my great grandad Richard Greenop. I would like to no any more information about him and any other relatives.
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 22 December 18 13:24 GMT (UK)
Welcome to rootschat

I presume that this is your family in 1871
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V557-BQ6

It is best if you tell us what sort of information you are after so we don't spend time looking for and posting what you have already found
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: candrjm on Saturday 22 December 18 14:07 GMT (UK)
Just in case you don't already have this:

1841 census??

Event Place    Grasmere, Westmorland, England
Residence Note    Elter Water
Gender    Male
Age    24-28
Age    24
Birth Year (Estimated)    1813-1817
Birthplace    Westmorland
Registration District    Kendal
Parish    Grasmere
County    Westmorland
Page Number    11
Registration Number    HO107
Piece/Folio    1159/8

Household
William Greenop       M    57-61    Westmorland************************
Sarah Greenop       F    62-66    Westmorland
John Greenop       M    24-28    Westmorland<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Agnes Greenop       F    28-32    Westmorland
Mary Greenop       F    4    Westmorland
Thomas Mires       M    21-25    Westmorland

Marriage records John's father as William which matches with the above 1841 census:

Name    John Greenop
Spouse's Name    Mary Kirkby
Spouse's Birth Date    1823
Spouse's Age    20
Event Date    27 May 1843
Event Place    Grasmere,Westmorland,England
Father's Name    William Greenop***************************************
Spouse's Father's Name    Henry Kirkby
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: susanhwg on Saturday 22 December 18 22:29 GMT (UK)
Thankyou for this information. Are you related to the greenops.
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: candrjm on Sunday 23 December 18 10:16 GMT (UK)
No, not related, just helping out.

These records on the familysearch website seem to relate to the same family

https://tinyurl.com/y8bpp4g8

+ possible marriage for William Greeop's (baptised 1785) parents:

Name    John Greenop
Spouse's Name    Mary Coward
Event Date    12 Jun 1784
Event Place    Grasmere,Westmorland,England
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: susanhwg on Monday 24 December 18 13:43 GMT (UK)
thankyou for your information.
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 25 December 18 05:51 GMT (UK)
How is it that you only ‘believe’ that you are connected to this family?

Children not on the 1871:

GREENOP, MARY mmn KIRKBY
GRO Reference: 1843  D Quarter in KENDAL UNION  Volume 25  Page 459

GREENOP, MARGARET mmn KIRKBY
GRO Reference: 1847  S Quarter in KENDAL  Volume 25  Page 455

GREENOP, SARAH mmn KIRKBY
GRO Reference: 1850  J Quarter in KENDAL UNION  Volume 25  Page 538

GREENOP, JOHN mmn KIRKBY
GRO Reference: 1854  D Quarter in KENDAL  Volume 10B  Page 485

William with alternate spelling:

GRENOP, WILLIAM mmn KIRKBY
GRO Reference: 1844  S Quarter in KENDAL UNION  Volume 25  Page 477

James’ middle name:

GREENOP, JAMES  ELIAS mmn KIRKBY
GRO Reference: 1864  M Quarter in ULVERSTONE  Volume 08E  Page 681

Richard registered in ULVERSTONE:

GREENOP, RICHARD mmn KIRKBY
GRO Reference: 1868  J Quarter in ULVERSTONE  Volume 08E  Page 777

Jamjar


Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 25 December 18 08:36 GMT (UK)
Christening of Mary Kirkby:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NR9F-7PN

Her on the 1841: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77V-XJ5

The death mentioned:
Dec 1878 Kendal 10b 445
GREENOP John 61   

Death of Mary:
Deaths Dec 1880 Kendal 10b 403
Greenop Mary 57

Jamjar
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 25 December 18 08:45 GMT (UK)
Richard with married brother, William, on the 1881:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-GDZR

Is this him on the 1891 with wife Sarah?: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q1RH-CPZ

Mar 1891 Ulverston 8e 1112
GREENOP Richard
NANSON Sarah Eleanor

1901:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9GF-4XL
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9GF-4XR

1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49L-8N7
Sarah Jnr: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWNX-QTF
Agnes Eleanor: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49L-C86

Births:

GREENOP, SARAH mmn NANSON
GRO Reference: 1891  J Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 871

GREENOP, AGNES  ELEANOR mmn NANSON
GRO Reference: 1893  S Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 813

GREENOP, RICHARD mmn NANSON
GRO Reference: 1895  S Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 842

GREENOP, JOHN mmn NANSON (possible death March quarter 1899)
GRO Reference: 1898  S Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 842

GREENOP, EDITH mmn NANSON (possible death March quarter 1900)
GRO Reference: 1900  M Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 824

GREENOP, MARY mmn NANSON
GRO Reference: 1901  S Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 763

GREENOP, ROBERT mmn NANSON
GRO Reference: 1905  J Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 758

GREENOP, MARIAN  ISABEL mmn NANSON
GRO Reference: 1907  J Quarter in BARROW IN FURNESS  Volume 08E  Page 828

GREENOP, FRANK  WINDER mmn NANSON
GRO Reference: 1909  J Quarter in BARROW IN FURNESS  Volume 08E  Page 790

GREENOP, LESLIE mmn NANSON
GRO Reference: 1911  S Quarter in BARROW-IN-FURNESS  Volume 08E  Page 1418

Deaths of Richard and his son Richard?:

Mar 1914 Barrow F. 8e
GREENOP Richard 45

Jun 1970 Manchester 10e 22
GREENOP Richard -Au1895

Did mother Sarah re-marry?

Marriage:
Sep 1915 Ulverston 8e 1945
GREENOP Sarah E
BACKHOUSE John

Death:
Jun 1925 Barrow F 8e 957
BACKHOUSE Sarah E 53

Jamjar
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 25 December 18 10:55 GMT (UK)
Birth:

NANSON, HENRY mmn WINDER
GRO Reference: 1855  M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 424

NANSON, JOHN mmn WINDER
GRO Reference: 1857  M Quarter in ULVERSTON UNION  Volume 08E  Page 584

NANSON, JOSEPH mmn WINDER
GRO Reference: 1859  S Quarter in ULVERSTONE UNION  Volume 08E  Page 594

NANSON, ROBERT mmn WINDER
GRO Reference: 1861  S Quarter in ULVERSTONE UNION  Volume 08E  Page 661

NANSON, THOMAS mmn WINDER
GRO Reference: 1863  J Quarter in ULVERSTONE  Volume 08E  Page 668

NANSON, WILLIAM mmn WINDER
GRO Reference: 1865  M Quarter in ULVERSTONE  Volume 08E  Page 666

NANSON, SEPTIMUS mmn WINDER
GRO Reference: 1867  J Quarter in ULVERSTONE  Volume 08E  Page 740

NANSON, SARAH  ELEANOR mmn WINDER
GRO Reference: 1869  S Quarter in ULVERSTONE  Volume 08E  Page 701

NANSON, WINDER mmn WINDER (think this may be Octavious)
GRO Reference: 1871  S Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 741

NANSON, THOMPSON  BUSHBY mmn WINDER
GRO Reference: 1874  M Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 741

NANSON, JONAH  ATKINSON mmn WINDER
GRO Reference: 1876  J Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 831

NANSON, UNDECIMUS mmn WINDER
GRO Reference: 1880  D Quarter in ULVERSTON  Volume 08E  Page 729

Christening?:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N8V2-KZR

Marriage of parents? :-\

Marriages Dec 1866 Carlisle 10b 699
NANSON John B       
WINDER Margaret

Could Sarah have been previously married? That would give her a different marriage surname, but WINDER for mmn?

1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZP5-5JY

1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27R-QSVG

1891: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q1TK-NZM

1901: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9LK-BTS


Jamjar





Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: susanhwg on Wednesday 26 December 18 23:02 GMT (UK)
thankyou for all your information. you have given me alot to think about.
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: susanhwg on Thursday 24 January 19 21:32 GMT (UK)
i am new to this. i have had alot of information on my relatives greenops. is anyone related to the Greenop family on here. thankyou
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: IgorStrav on Sunday 27 January 19 13:46 GMT (UK)
Hi there

If you scroll right down to the bottom of the page, to the black section, you will see an entry for SURNAME INTERESTS

You can look up Greenop surname there, contact anyone else researching that name, or add it yourself.
ADDED - I've just checked and there is someone looking for that name

Hope that helps!

Also, do look over the information - take as long as you like - and then get back with any queries and people will help you.
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: searching1 on Wednesday 14 August 19 13:22 BST (UK)
Hi
My grandmothers father  but her grandmother was a greenop he was a farmer from Cumberland they had daughter Gladys Winifred
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: searching1 on Wednesday 14 August 19 13:33 BST (UK)
Any greenop family my my grandmas dad was Alfred his daughter was Gladys Winifred they were farmers from Cumbria and Alfred also had a shop selling fruit and veg.Gladys married the surname Hobbs and had 3 children
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 14 August 19 13:50 BST (UK)
This was a duplicate post today which has now been merged by moderator

Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Have you checked the Surname Interests Board - link at bottom of this page under Tools

Gladys Winifred Greenop was b 1907 in Camberwell per www.freebmd.org.uk

Her marriage to Alfred A Hobbs was 1929 Camberwell
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: searching1 on Wednesday 14 August 19 13:51 BST (UK)
Thankyou
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 14 August 19 14:01 BST (UK)
Hi again - see my additions to my reply above

Glady's father wasn't Alfred - it was John and he was b Westmorland but was a labourer - not a farmer

Her mothers maiden name was Bond

I can't see a connection to Gloucester which is the board you have posted on.  Gladys Winifred Hobbs died Camberwell 1983 - born 23.7.1907
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 14 August 19 14:07 BST (UK)
There were 4 children born to the 1929 marriage between 1931-1941
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: searching1 on Wednesday 14 August 19 15:36 BST (UK)
Hi Carole Thankyou for being so helpful all the information is exactly correct it’s great to have some help.Are you a greenop ?
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: Capetown on Wednesday 14 August 19 17:42 BST (UK)
Kerry Broadbent has a Public Members Tree on Ancestry which includes the 1911 census

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Gladys Winifred Greenop born 1908
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 14 August 19 19:13 BST (UK)
Hi

No relation to the Greenop family.  Do you need help with info?  We can't post any details of persons who may still be alive but can possibly help with other info

Still wondering about the connection to Gloucester :)
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 14 August 19 19:17 BST (UK)
Duplicate post here

Have asked moderator to merge - topics merged
Title: Re: john greenop
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 14 August 19 22:37 BST (UK)
There is nothing in the replies to your other post which show a connection to Gloucestershire.  Can you explain please?