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Title: FOWLIE family South Shields
Post by: lynniedsn on Monday 17 December 18 02:35 GMT (UK)
I Have a family from Peterhead that moved to South Sheilds
ROBERT FOWLIE                                           Born abt 1855 Scotland
MARGARET FOWLIE ( Maiden Name Davidson) Born 1857 Peterhead Aberdeenshire Scotland
Children
Robert Fowlie        Born abt 1878 Peterhead Aberdeenshire Scotland
James Fowlie        Born abt  1881 Peterhead Aberdeenshire Scotland
Alexander Fowlie   Born abt 1883 Peterhead Aberdeenshire Scotland
Ameila Fowlie       Born abt 1886 South Sheilds
Margaret Fowlie    Born abt 1888 South Sheilds
Peter Fowlie         Born abt  1891 South Sheilds
Henry Fowlie        Born abt   1894 South Sheilds
Thomas Fowlie     Born abt 1899 South Sheilds
I have the 1881,1891,1901,1911 Census it was more Death Dates i was trying to research

Title: Re: FOWLIE FAMILY SOUTH SHEILDS
Post by: heywood on Monday 17 December 18 03:26 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Have you checked https://www.freebmd.org.uk for marriages and death dates?
For example - these look like your family and you could check them

Death 1899 Robert Fowlie 45 yrs S Shields

Amelia looks to marry James Snell.
1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWH4-CR3

Death Free BMD Amelia Snell December 1912 Houghton le Spring

There is a birth December 1912 Amelia Snell mmn Fowley with a death the same quarter.

There is a marriage 1906 Margaret Fowlie to George Fell McCoy

Heywood


Title: Re: FOWLIE FAMILY SOUTH SHEILDS
Post by: lynniedsn on Monday 17 December 18 16:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your reply i will look into that
Title: Re: FOWLIE FAMILY SOUTH SHEILDS
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Monday 17 December 18 17:16 GMT (UK)
https://www.southtyneside.gov.uk/article/34814/Search-historical-births-deaths-and-marriages-records

Margaret Fowlie married at St Mark in South Shields on 29 June 1906.

I believe this record will be held at South Shields library and also at Tyne and Wear Archives.
Title: Re: FOWLIE family South Shields
Post by: Tickettyboo on Tuesday 18 December 18 13:28 GMT (UK)
Possibility for Peter:

Shields Daily News 06 Nov 1918, page 4, col 1

Pte Peter Fowlie, D.L.I, son of Mrs Fowlie 66 Percy St., South Shields, has been killed iin action.

CWGC gives his service no as 201302 and date of death as 21/07/1918. he is remembered on the Soissons Memorial, which commemorates almost 4,00 officers and men from the UK who died during the Battles of the Aisne and Marne in 1918 and have no known grave.

The register of soldiers effects records his mother as the sole legatee and says her name was Margaret.

None of these records give an indication of his age.

Can't see a surviving service record for him.

Boo
Title: Re: FOWLIE family South Shields
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Tuesday 18 December 18 13:40 GMT (UK)
He's on this website it would seem:

http://www.newmp.org.uk/detail.php?contentId=8998

Looks like he may have been at Holy Trinity school as he is named on a memorial:

http://www.newmp.org.uk/detail.php?contentId=8993
Title: Re: FOWLIE family South Shields
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Tuesday 18 December 18 13:47 GMT (UK)
Tyne and Wear Archives have school admission records for Holy Trinity - check this out through this link:

http://www.margaret-hall-genealogy.com/page7.htm

Possibly, when the Illustrated Chronicle publishes more photos on-line  - one may be found for him. :)
Title: Re: FOWLIE family South Shields
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Tuesday 18 December 18 14:09 GMT (UK)
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/726223/fowlie,-peter/

Also on the above link it seems.

Added: Sorry, this has already been mentioned by Boo. :-[
Title: Re: FOWLIE family South Shields
Post by: Tickettyboo on Tuesday 18 December 18 14:12 GMT (UK)
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/726223/fowlie,-peter/

Also on the above link it seems.

Yep that where I got his service number from.

Boo
Title: Re: FOWLIE family South Shields
Post by: Tickettyboo on Tuesday 18 December 18 15:56 GMT (UK)
Possibilities for Henry
Newcastle Journal 25th July 1916, page 7 col 2

Mrs Fowlie, 12, Maxwell St, South Shields, has been informed that her husband Private Henry Fowlie was wounded in the left hand on July 1st, and is in hospital at Southport.


Marriages Q4 1914 S Shields, Henry Fowlie and Mary Brown
4 likely children all registered S Shields, with MMN Brown : Henry (1915), Irene (1924), Mary (1929) and another in 1932 (who is 'possibly' still alive so I haven't posted the full name, but its available on FreeBMD)

There is a soldiers medical record (on FindMyPast) for a Henry Fowlie, Pte 234 of the Northumberland Fusiliers, age 23, had been in the army for 18 months and in the field for 6 months. On 1.7.1916 he was admitted to the Casualty Clearing Station (no 34) with a wound to his left hand, the note in the final column says Evac O.T which 'may' mean overseas transport but that's just a guess.

Also on FindMyPast is a transcription of the Silver War Badge Roll for Henry Fowlie Pte 26/234 Northumberland Fusiliers, who enlisted on 24.11.1914 and was discharged because of wounds on 9.10 1916.

Using the parents names and combination of the children's names on Free BMD, there is a matching family on the 1939 register in South Shields: Henry (born 1894), Mary (1895), Irene (1924) and Mary (1929)

and a possible death registered South Shields, Q4 1968, Henry Fowlie age 73.

Not writ in stone that this is 'your' Henry, but worth investigating further. If you have access to FindMyPast/ British Newspaper Archive or your library does, or can get to an LDS FHC who will happily let you use their computer to search,  it may pay off to trawl through 3 months of death notices (I've found that for announcements in particular the optical character recognition system fails gloriously to find what I want).
If you find a death notice that looks like it may be the one you are after, look on the death date the following year as they 'may' be In Memoriam notices from siblings etc who may not have been mentioned in the death notice. Sometimes you strike lucky and can confirm that you have the right person by doing that.

Boo
Title: Re: FOWLIE family South Shields
Post by: River Tyne Lass on Tuesday 18 December 18 16:04 GMT (UK)
Looks like the mentioned Henry married at St Michael on 28 November 1914.

https://www.southtyneside.gov.uk/article/34814/Search-historical-births-deaths-and-marriages-records

I hope original poster comes back after all these posts Boo.
Title: Re: FOWLIE family South Shields
Post by: Tickettyboo on Tuesday 18 December 18 21:24 GMT (UK)


I hope original poster comes back after all these posts Boo.
Well RTL, they may or may not I suppose, but these things happen.

I am off now for some sun and R & R
Have a lovely Christmas everyone

Boo
Title: Re: FOWLIE family South Shields
Post by: lynniedsn on Thursday 20 December 18 00:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much for all your replies much much appreciated
Title: Re: FOWLIE family South Shields
Post by: Warren Fowlie on Saturday 04 May 19 04:44 BST (UK)
Hello: Is anyone still following these posts for the Fowlie family in South Shields? I am working my way through the family connections as Robert Fowlie 1854-1899 is a 5th cousin twice removed. Happy to cooperate with what I have.
Warren Fowlie Aotearoa New Zealand