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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Carlow => Topic started by: GenesA on Saturday 15 December 18 12:28 GMT (UK)
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I have the baptism of Ann Brien who was baptised at Myshall in July 1831. The register named her parents as Michael Brien & Ann Doyle. I’ve searched for a marriage between Michael Brien and Ann Doyle but haven’t found one yet, neither can I find any more children born to the couple. I’m not very experienced with Irish records so I’m not sure where to look next really :-\
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Do you know if the fathers occupation was a Carpenter
Here is a later birth in Clonroche,Wexford to a couple by same names but might just be coincidence
Mary 1865 top of sheet
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03570/2315402.pdf
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Hi GenesA
We are all here to help.......
Michael Brien in 1827
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625703/004625703_00375.pdf
here his is in 1852
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&familyname=brien&firstname=michael&baronyname=&countyname=CARLOW&unionname=&parishname=&Submit.x=37&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit
this is the site you need if they were Catholic.
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0719
Maggsie
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I’m not sure what Michael’s occupation was but I’ll consider it :)
Thank you Maggsie
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Have you tried variations of surname Brien such as Bryan and O'Brien.
I came across one couple that had a very big family. The mother's name changed Brien Bryan and o'Brien. Lucky for me the father has an unusual surname and they stayed living in same house.
Good luck with your research.
Jfch
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Thank you, I’ll definitely try some wildcards for the surname. I believe there is a link between Bartholomew Brien and the Brien family - he was named as a witness at the 1853 marriage.
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A Bartholemew Brien age 35 died 1868 in Carlow death cert not yet viewable
There is a birth for Elizabeth July 1868 to Bartholemew decd and Mary Molloy
top of page
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03428/2258248.pdf
There is also a Bartholemew and Anne Byrne
see John 1870 number 313
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03359/2231523.pdf
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Thank you dathai. Given Bartholomew’s year of birth (about 1833), do you think it’s plausible that he was probably a brother of Ann Brien or maybe a cousin?
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I’ve just found a 1833 baptism for Bartholomew:
12 July 1833, Myshall Parish
Barth Brein
Son of Barth Brein and Catherine Finn
He wasn’t Michael Brien’s son then but could have been his nephew. I’m almost certain this is the right family though because there was also a Bridget Finn who was present at the 1853 marriage of Ann Brien, possibly a relation of Bartholomew’s mother?
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Taking another look at this side of the family after a break... I looked at the image of Ann Brien's 1831 baptism and the abode for her parents, Michael Brien and Ann Doyle, was Drumphea which is part of the Myshall parish I believe?
There are definitely no other children born to Michael Brien and Ann Doyle but there are children baptised at Myshall to Michael Brien and Catherine and Mary Doyle:
17 November 1839, Thomas son of Michael Bryan and Catherina Doyle
5 May 1841, Brid(get) daughter of Michael Brien and Mary Doyle, abode "Nockendrane", think this should be Knockendrane
February 1842, Edw. son of Michael Bryan and Catherine Doyle
Could it be possible that Ann Doyle was the same person as Mary/Catherine Doyle? I know it's a bit of a reach but I thought I would consider it, simply because of the shared surname. I'd just like to hear people's thoughts on this.
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I found in the Ballon birth records that the priest entered my Greatgrandmother as Mary when her name was Anne, She had 6 daughters only four had her proper name. Mistakes can be made. Best of luck with your search.