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Title: Cause of Death for Angus McDonald
Post by: jimnorah on Saturday 01 December 18 11:57 GMT (UK)
The attached is the cause of death of my wife's 3x Great-Grandfather who dies in 1881. I cam decipher 5 years and also 2 months but cannot make anything of the actual causes.
As always, any help would be much appreciated, thanks.
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: Old Bristolian on Saturday 01 December 18 12:03 GMT (UK)
Is the first one Cardiac Disease? The second starts with Cardiac as well I think
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: jimnorah on Saturday 01 December 18 12:14 GMT (UK)
I think you're correct in both and I'm sure I can see a th in the last word.
Thanks for that!

Jim
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: despair on Saturday 01 December 18 13:28 GMT (UK)
I think the second "cardiac" is followed by "isthmus",but I can't currently make out the next line which might describe it's condition!

Roger

Added: I think the next line ends in "...2 months",which doesn't give me the greatest confidence about my initial reading!
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: oldohiohome on Saturday 01 December 18 13:36 GMT (UK)
The second cause may be cardiac ischemia ... duration 2 months.  ???

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/myocardial-ischemia/symptoms-causes/syc-20375417
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: josey on Saturday 01 December 18 14:30 GMT (UK)
I see after cardiac [poss] ischaemia] '...and dropsy 2 months' ie water retention or oedema.
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: Strangways on Saturday 01 December 18 15:56 GMT (UK)
Cardiac disease and Cardiac Asthma- latter is shortness of breath due to heart failure commonly associated with cardiac disease.
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: josey on Saturday 01 December 18 16:27 GMT (UK)
Yes, agree with that Strangways.
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 01 December 18 19:43 GMT (UK)
Cardiac disease and Cardiac Asthma- latter is shortness of breath due to heart failure commonly associated with cardiac disease.

Agree with that - first for 5 years second for 2 months - I think. Can't read what is just in front of 2 months though.  :-\

Wiggy
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: Strangways on Saturday 01 December 18 22:29 GMT (UK)
I think it says dropsy which is a term used to describe oedema, common in congestive and right heart failure where swelling of the ankles occurs and can be quite marked. So a combo of left heart failure giving fluid in the lungs, shortness of breath cough and sometime wheezing and right heart failure allowing fluid to build up in the extremities is cardiac asthma and dropsy. Dropsy is a description really not an actual diagnosis and it is very hard to read but given the preceding term of cardiac asthma that is the most likely addional symptom.
Title: Re: Cause of Death
Post by: jimnorah on Sunday 02 December 18 16:02 GMT (UK)
Thanks to all who responded - wasn't the easiest document to decipher I think you'll all agree!

Jim