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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: Yashca on Monday 26 November 18 14:53 GMT (UK)
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Hi all,
I've hit an odd record and a bit of a brick wall. I've been following family lines back from a Jane Elizabeth Lomax (b. 9th May 1887, baptised 31st Jan 1888 in Mayfield, Derbyshire and then seemingly again on 26th June 1889 in Attercliffe, Yorkshire) Her parents are Edward Lomax and Agnes.
In 1891 I can find a family in Geasbrough, Rotherham, Yorkshire, which consists of:
Edward Lomax Head Married Male 43 1848 -
Agnes Lomax Wife Married Female 43 1848 - Duffield, Derbyshire,
Jane E Lomax Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Staffordshire, England
Edward Lomax Son - Male 0 1891 - Yorkshire, England
Which seems to match the birth record of Jane Elizabeth Lomax well
In 1901 I can find them again, this time in Attercliffe, Sheffield:
Edward Lomax Head Married Male 48 1853 Manchester, Lancashire
Agnes Lomax Wife Married Female 44 1857 Duffield, Yorkshire
May Lomax Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Mayfield, Derbyshire
Jane E Lomax Daughter Single Female 13 1888 Mayfield, Derbyshire,
Edward Lomax Son Single Male 7 1894 Masbrough, Yorkshire
Ellen Lomax Daughter Single Female 6 1895 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Weirdly, Edward and Agnes don't appeared to have aged much. I know people's ages can be a bit flexible, but Agnes is only recorded as a year older. Despite this, I think they're the same people.
There are very few marriage records between Edward Lomaxes and Agneses, and only one that makes sense:
Edward Lomax & Agnes Wilson, 25th December 1873, Mayfield, Staffordshire
Edward's father: James Lomax
Agnes' father: Joseph Rogers (??)
When I look at the image itself, Joseph Rogers has a line drawn through it. Is this a mistake or mistranscription? Was Agnes actually illegitimate, and the father they wrote in was a mistake?
I have searched for 'Agnes Wilson' and 'Agnes Rogers' pre 1873, but can't find anything that makes sense. Can anyone help?
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If you check the birth registrations of the children on the GRO website it will show the mothers maiden name
Ellen Lomax born Jun 1894 Sheffield has mothers name Wilson
Maybe Joseph Rogers was a step father - any sign of him around the time Agnes was young.
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If she dies age 70 in 1927 then birth year of 1857 might be this one - right district no father
Agnes Wilson Dec 1856 Belper
If she was young when she married ages may have been fiddled a bit.
Can you see the actual marriage for her - does it give an actual age for her?
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1861 has an Agnes Wilson age 4 who is a niece to Benjamin & Ellen Bembridge
1871 she's Agnes Bembridge age 14 down as daughter to same couple
I don't know if this is your Agnes or not but worth checking out
Ellen was a Wilson so maybe a sister of hers was Agnes mother
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Marriage Parish registers Page 44 entry 85
St Alkmund Derby 8 Sept 1851
Benjamin Bembridge Bachelor labourer Little Eaton father Thomas Bembridge occ farmer
Ellen Wilson 26 spinster servant Little Eaton father James Wilson occ Miller
Benjamin signed Ellen made her mark
witnesses J Hutchinson Mary Bassett? both signed
Suz
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there is this baptism
St Aulkmund Derby Page 98 entry 780
19 April 1857 Agnes Wilson
parents Thomas & Mary
fathers occ Labourer
abode Henry ? St
Suz
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I don't think that one is her. The one with parents Thomas & Mary marries Thomas Kinch I believe in 1877.
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1861 has an Agnes Wilson age 4 who is a niece to Benjamin & Ellen Bembridge
1871 she's Agnes Bembridge age 14 down as daughter to same couple
I don't know if this is your Agnes or not but worth checking out
Ellen was a Wilson so maybe a sister of hers was Agnes mother
1881 - Mayfield
Benjamin Bembridge 58
Ellen Bembridge 58
Thomas Bembridge 20
Annie Bembridge 18
Ellen Bembridge 15
Agnes Lomas 24 - b Duffield
Mary Lomas 4 - b Wakefield
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Wow! That's fantastic - we've got the right Agnes Wilson/Lomax; I need to research Ellen Bembridge/Wilson to look into her siblings.
Is it ever the case that parents would put down on the census that an illegitimate child is a 'niece'? Wondered if Ellen was a possible candidate for being the mother...?
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And just after asking that question I notice that Mary Lomas in 1881 is down on the census as 'grand-daughter'.