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Title: Vanished Standish 1861
Post by: Yashca on Sunday 25 November 18 11:01 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

I am struggling a bit with my ancestors, the Standishes.

Sarah Standish was married to George Armitage on the 21st Feb 1886 in Sheffield, and her father is recorded as John Standish, a smith.

In subsequent censuses as Sarah Armitage she puts her birth place as Dronfield, Derbyshire, in circa 1851.

I've searched for Sarah Standish on the census and the only likely record I can find is a Sarah Standish in 1851. Her birthplace is Dronfield, and her father is a blacksmith called John Standish, so this feels pretty likely.

The problem I face is that the whole family seems to disappear after 1851.

In 1851 the family is:

John   Standish       Head   Married   Male           29   1822   Blacksmith   Norton, Derbyshire
Anne   Standish       Wife   Married   Female   29   1822     -               Eckington, Derbyshire
Hemely Standish    Daughter   -   Female   9   1842     -                Dronfield, Derbyshire
Susannah Standish Daughter   -   Female   7   1844     Scholar        Dronfield, Derbyshire
Harriet Standish        Daughter   -   Female   5   1846     Scholar        Dronfield, Derbyshire
Robin Standish        Son           -   Male           2   1849   -                Dronfield, Derbyshire
Sarah Standish        Daughter   -   Female   0   1851     -                Dronfield, Derbyshire


However, I can't find any of them on the census after 1851. From searching baptism records, it appears they had four further children:

Henry Standish           Bap: 1853 (And I think died in 1853)
John Arthur Standish   Bap: 1859
Martha Standish          Bap: 1859
Samuel Standish         Bap: 1859  (And I think died in 1859)
 
But I can't find Martha or John Arthur  in 1861 or subsequently. Can anyone help me find John, Anne and their daughter Sarah in 1861, 1871 or 1881?

Also, can anyone interpret the name 'Hemely'?
Title: Re: Vanished Standish 1861
Post by: C P Rayson on Sunday 25 November 18 11:25 GMT (UK)
Hi

If John Standish married Ann Allen marriage q2 1843 then it is possible the Hemely is Emily Allen born q1 1842 Chesterfield, 19, 481

see https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp where mother's maiden name is not given and could suggest an illegitimate child

Hope this helps

Happy hunting

Chris
Title: Re: Vanished Standish 1861
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 25 November 18 11:38 GMT (UK)
This family fits pretty well in 1861 living Turnpike Road Dronfield

John Standish 44 born Norton - blacksmith
Ann 40 born Dronfield
Robert 12 - blacksmith
Sarah 10
Martha 8
John H 11 months
Title: Re: Vanished Standish 1861
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 25 November 18 11:47 GMT (UK)
Possible 1871 transcribed as a mixture of Hanley and Stanley living Sheffield

John Hanley 50 born Norton
Ann Hanley 50 born Cockington
Sarah Stanley 22 born Dronfield
John Arthur Stanley 11 born Dronfield
Albert Edward Stanley 1 grandson born Sheffield

Albert Edward Standish born Jun 1870 Sheffield - no mothers name which might suggest he was the illegitimate son of Sarah.





Title: Re: Vanished Standish 1861
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 25 November 18 13:39 GMT (UK)
Marriage;
16 Apr 1843, St John, Dronfield
John STANDISH, Full Age, Bachelor, Smith, Father SAMUEL, Smith
Ann ALLEN, Full Age, Spinster, Father ROBERT, Grinder
Witnesses, W Hodkins, George Goodlad

SARAH ANNE Standish Bapt same Church 04 Mar 1851, Parents John/Anne, Father Blacksmith
HENRY 28 May 1853
JOHN ARTHUR/MARTHA/SAMUEL all Bapt same day 13 Oct 1859

HENRY was Buried 09 May 1853 and SAMUEL 16 Oct 1859

A Tree has John Parents as SAMUEL/MARTHA but this is incorrect;

JOHN Standish 17 March 1822 Norton, Derbyshire
Parents SAMUEL/SUSANNAH

Samuel Married Susannah REANEY 18 Oct 1810 Norton

1841 Census we have;
Samuel Standish 45
Martha Standish   45
John Standish   19
Henry Standish   15
Martha Standish   10

MARTHA was Bapt to Samuel/Susannah 24 Oct 1830

Trish :)
Title: Re: Vanished Standish 1861
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 25 November 18 13:42 GMT (UK)
SUSANNAH Standish buried 19 June 1832 Norton age 40 (1792)   
Title: Re: Vanished Standish 1861
Post by: Yashca on Monday 26 November 18 11:37 GMT (UK)
Wow! Thanks everyone.

I'm still having a weird problem where I can't find the 1861 or 1871 records that Millipede found on FindMyPast - can anyone else see them on there? I'm assuming, Millipede, that you used a different website?
Title: Re: Vanished Standish 1861
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 26 November 18 12:48 GMT (UK)
I used ancestry.
Title: Re: Vanished Standish 1861
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 27 November 18 11:58 GMT (UK)
I used Anc also
Title: Re: Vanished Standish 1861
Post by: Yashca on Thursday 29 November 18 19:56 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone for the support in hunting the Standishes down! It seems my greatest barrier was using a site that didn't have the relevant documents!