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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: Peterej on Saturday 24 November 18 12:56 GMT (UK)
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My great Uncle was born in Tryddyn in Flintshire in 1872. I have his birth certificate and can find him in sthe 1881 and 1891 censuses. He then disappears. I have recently received some old photographs and on the backs of 2 it says 'Arthur's Uncle Jack in Stockport'. I have found a John Edwards living in Stockport and his dob is correct except it has been mistranscribed as 27 Oct 1872 instead of 29 Oct.
Arthur was my father.
This means the name was changed from Adam to John/Jack. Adam's father was John.
Can anyone help with the house which has quite distinctive brickwork. I cannot find Adam/John/Jack in 1901 or 1911 and he could have been living elsewhere.
I haven't put this post in Flintshire or Denbighshire as yet.
Thank you for any help or suggestions.
Peter
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Sorry I can't help, only to say there used to be lots of houses like the ones in your photograph in that part of Cheshire/Lancashire, mainly larger than the back to back terraced houses and sometimes quite grand houses. As a child I used to call the bricks "swimming bath bricks" because that's what they looked like to me. ::)
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Thanks Lizzie
I know what you mean about the brickwork
Peter
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My great Uncle was born in Tryddyn in Flintshire in 1872.
Bit confused with the names - what is the birth name of said great Uncle?
Do you know what year the photograph was taken, is great Uncle the older gentleman?
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He was born Adam Edwards.
My Mum and Dad are with Adam/John/Jack.
I would guess 1935 to 1937. He was in the army 1939.
Peter
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As this looks like a 1930s image have you thought of looking on the 1939 register for the family to see where they were living.
Carol
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Hi Carol
I did look at the 1939 census which according to Find my Past shows him living in 31 Castle St Stockport. When I looked at Google maps it did not look anything like the photo. As it happens I now used Ancestry and it is 31 HARDcastle Street and it looks the same as the photo. John Edward's occupation is shown as retired grocer. He is married to Laura (Annie) and I have not yet traced the marriage.
Thanks
Peter
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The picture is a very good match for the houses in Hardcastle Road, and the reflection of the trees in the front door suggests it might be one of the ones opposite Edgeley Park.
However, it can't be the current No. 31, as there's a passageway immediately to the left separating it from No. 29.
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I agree it looks odd but the brickwork ties in and I am guessing there was some sort of door for the passageway???!!!
Peter
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I am guessing there was some sort of door for the passageway???!!!
Yes, but it would have been more like a gate, the two doors in the photograph are definitely both front doors. Nothing to suggest they weren't standing outside a different house than Adam/Jack lived in.
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I agree.
Come on Wales (v South Africa ) - getting a bit close and I am going out soon.
Peter
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Peter,
You may already have considered this but........there is a death indexed for a John A Edwards who died in 1955 at age 83 and the death was registered in Stockport.
As the death is pre-1957, it might be worth getting a PDF copy of the record (at £6.00) from the GRO.
Willyam
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Hi
Now that is very interesting especially as Cheshire BMD give the name as John Adam!!!
Do you know what info is given on the PDF copy. I am thinking that the informant may have been a son or daughter.
Thanks again
Peter
Ps Wales won.. phew
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Peter,
For some time now, where possible, I have been ordering PDFs as they are direct digital copies of the paper certificate (at £9.25) that would otherwise come through the post - but subject to the following (GRO Q&A) caveat:
"Q4. Is a PDF the same as a certificate and can I use a PDF as evidence for official purposes, such as a passport application, or if giving notice of marriage etc.?
No. A PDF is not a certificate. A PDF will have no "evidential" value, and therefore a paper certified copy [certificate] is required for official purposes, e.g. if applying for a passport, driving licence, or where required to give notice of marriage."
Willyam
Ps - of course Wales won!
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Excellent
I’ll give that a go and let you know idc
Peter
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I have now received the PDF death certificate and this confirms that it is John Adam Edwards , retired
Retail grocer of 31 Hardcastle St, Stockport. The informant was a brother in law and his surname Curran has enabled me to trace the marriage. Still looking for possible children.
All in all a most successful post and thanks to everyone and particularly to Willyam especially mentioning the PDF route which is very useful and will save money!!
Peter
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John A b 1877 states he was a retired grocer, Castle Street is the main shopping area so it is likely that he resided 'on the premises'
Hardcastle Street is likely to be his parents residential address, which may be identified from those on google as it has at least 2 steps leading to the front door, the brick pattern is distinctive as belonging to the houses on the bottom end of the street
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Hi
John Adam is residing in HARDcastle Street and not Castle street. Castle st is shown as the address on Ancestry but if you look at the actual register you will see it is an error as per my post 24 Nov. I was thrown by that as well to start with. He was already retired in 1939 so I do not know where he had the business.
Thanks for your interest.
Peter
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Trade directories may assist
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Thank you