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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northamptonshire => Topic started by: prairiegypsy on Saturday 24 November 18 07:27 GMT (UK)
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Thomas Wright married Ann Barnard in 1800 at Northampton St. Sepulchre. The marriage record says he was from the parish of Kingsthorpe. Following Ann’s death in 1810 in Islip, he married Mary Barker in 1816 in Islip.
I thought his parents were Currer and Joanna Wright but now I’m not so sure. Thomas’s descendants in Islip appear to have been Romani or Travelers (settled in Islip) based on their occupations, marriages, and family lore.
Currer Wright’s ancestors were lords of the manor in Kildwick in the 16th-18th centuries, making it very doubtful they were Thomas Wright’s ancestors. Any help with would be appreciated!
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What made you make the link to Currer Wright in Kildwick and not look for a baptism in the Northamptonshire / Oxfordshire area :-\
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I did look extensively for a link to Thomas Wright's parents in Northamptonshire but could not find a definitive link. I believe there were two possibilities but they didn't pan out.
I then looked closer at the Barnard/Wright marriage record and Thomas's connection to Kingsthorpe. I discovered Currer Wright of Northampton had a son named Thomas in 1776 and had several connections to nearby All Saints and St. Sepulchre (where Thomas married Ann Barnard in 1800).
Currer's baptism was in 1741 in Ilkley, Yorkshire. As I could not find a marriage certificate or any information on Currer's wife, Joanna, I posted a request for marriage information on this forum. No marriage record was found but one responder said that Currer Wright was likely connected to the Currers who were lords of the manor in Kildwick. When I traced Currer's ancestry, that was indeed correct. I hope this information helps.
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Thank you, I just wondered why you had taken the leap from Northants to Yorkshire when Wright is quite a common surname
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Thank you. Going to try this again. :)
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I think something is very wrong here.
On the 1800 Marriage of Thomas Wright to Ann Barnard they both signed.
The 1816 Marriage in Inslip Thomas Wright didnt sign his name.
I dont think the 2 Marriages are the same Thomas Wright.
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At St Sepulchre Northampton there are baptisms for......
Samuel born Nov 26 1812
Susannah born Sept 27 1816
William born Dec 18 1818
Mary Ann all four baptised on the same day on 11 Nov 1821 to Thomas Wright and his wife Ann of Hopes Place ...a shoemaker.
So looks like two different people as Trish said earlier.
Tazzie
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Following Ann’s death in 1810 in Islip.
I've just been looking at Islip, and there's no Ann Wright buried in 1810?
The nearest is an Ann wife of Thomas in 1812 in Ringstead?
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Yes I am very confused here.
What child of Thomas/Ann are you descended from prairiegypsy?
Name dob please.
I can find a John Bapt 1802 Inslip to a Thomas/Ann.
If I have him correctly in 1841/ 1851/1861 Census in 1851 he says he is born Ringstead.
The Ann buried 1812 Ringstead was age 38
Thos/Ann Bapt a ELIZABETH 8 Apr 1804 Ringstead also.
Did Thomas die 1826 Islip?
Is this Mary with Daug Fanny (Frances) in 1841 Census in islip?
George Richardson, 26
Fanny Richardson, 20
Mary Wright, 56
Francis Wright names her Father a Thomas, Labourer, on her 1840 M/C to George R
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Wow! I really outdid myself in goofing this up!!!
Thanks to all of your thoughtful responses, however, I think I've figured it out. Yes, the correct Ann turns out to be Ann Skelhorne (Wright) buried 1812 in Ringstead. Yes, John and Elizabeth are the children of Ann Skelhorne and Thomas Wright. And yes, Thomas Wright died 1826 in Islip.
I think the correct Thomas Wright was born 1778 in Ringstead to Susannah Wright. There is no father listed in the baptism record but it doesn't say Thomas was illegitimate, which is confusing. (The record has been transcribed incorrectly. The transcription says the father is Thomas Wright but the actual document doesn't list a father at all, only the mother and baby.)
The mother, Susanna Wright was born 1750 in Ringstead, and Wright is her maiden name.
What's still confusing is that according to Thomas Wright's death certificate, he was 50 years old so his birth date should be 1776 (rather than 1778). Would it be reasonable to think he was born in 1776 but wasn't baptized until 1778?
Thomas Wright is my 3xgreat-grandfather. He married again in 1816 in Islip to Mary Barker and had three more children. One of those children, George, is my 2xgreat-grandfather.
I think this is the right Thomas Wright, but do you think I should keep looking? There's at least another bazillion or so I could sift through. ;D
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No I think you are on the right track and his Mother was Susannah Wright.
A couple of years difference in age on a Death Record is not something to worry about too much, Age at Death is only as good as the informants knowledge.
FreeREG has John/Elizabeths childrens Baptisms in Ringstead 1742-1752 including Susannah 1750
(they had a earlier Susannah who was bapt 1744 and buried and buried couple of weeks later)
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possible Burials;
JOHN Wright 27 Jan 1777, occp Labourer
Elizabeth Wright, 30 June 1792, Widow
I cant find a Marriage for John/Elizabeth in Northamptonshire before 1742
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I have Thomas Wright I could do with help with he was my 3rd grt gf, born in Northamptonshire.
His daughter was Tryphrena Wright 1818 born Daventry who married William Smith born Mid London but moved at some point to Wellingborough, father George Smith. (dead end)
I found A Thomas Wright married to Hannah Alibone in either Flore or Daventry and thought well that's a place match so must be right.
Later found a Thomas and Hannah Goode married near area but got confused.
Tryphrena does have Thomas a Shoe producer on her marriage and her baptism has Thomas and Hannah as parents. Now which Hannah???
Anyone shed any light on this please?
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Welcome to Rootchat Rosemaryford,
Yes I see that 1793 Marriage and these children;
Parents Thomas/Hannah
Edward 1794 (born 1793)
William 1800, Upholter.
Henry 1802, Upholter.
Ann 1809 (born 1808), Innholder
Tryphena 1818, Cordwainer
I have typed Fathers occp next to Bapt years
So I can see that a Upholsterer may have also been a Shoemaker.
1793 Marriage was by Banns. Both Signed Their Signatures.
So they were both educated.
1841 Census has a Thomas Wright, Upholsterer, living in Daventry
Age 70 born c 1771
FreeREG has a Burial 15 Dec 1843 for a Thomas Parrot Wright age 76.
Now to place a spanner in the works there is a Burial for a HANNAH Wright 11 Jul 1813 age 44
(1769)
So age works for a a 1793 Marriage.
I'll see what else I can find :)
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I am so confused so can see why you are.
There are too many Thomas Wrights, a Shoemaker, in Northants.
EG;
Tappenes Wright
Age: 0
Birth Date: Abt 1820
Baptism Date: 2 Jul 1820
Baptism Place: Badby, Northamptonshire, England
Parents THOMAS/HANNAH, Father a Shoemaker
(Anc.)
Tahpenes WRIGHT
John EYRE
Married 22 Oct 1843 Wellingborough
(Father Thomas a Shoemaker)
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Thomas Parrott Wright baptism in Daventry 17th March 1768 born 22nd December 1767 father collar maker. I have found a baptism for an Hannah Allibone but it would make her too old for Tryaphina's birth
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Trish that death you found of Hannah Wright could be the same Hannah Allibone who's 1770 baptism I found in Staverton which is in the Daventry area although it said age about 4yrs. This is a puzzle!
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Are you looking at actual Parish Record images:
FreeREG has;
Burial date 11 Jul 1813
Burial person forename Hannah
Burial person surname WRIGHT
Person age 44y
Burial person abode Daventry
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Trish
I am looking at my discs. My Ancestry membership has recently ran out and will sometime pay another membership. Going by your Badby finding there is a Thomas Wright baptism Badby 11th September 1797 parents William and Susannah. I don't think this would be the one who Rosemaryford is looking for though as by your findings and the spelling of Tryphenas name she married a John Eyre. I would guess it's the other Tryphena. Agree?