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Searching for any information for private Richard John Roberts 16427 grenadier guards 1st battalion
14-march-1893 to 04-June-1915.
Son of Richard and Ellen Roberts of Walthamstow Essex
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UK, WWI Pension Ledgers and Index Card
Richard J. Roberts - death date 4 June 1915 - killed in action.
Rank Pte - Military Service Region Eastern/London/South East, England
Service Number 16427 - Regiment Grenadier Guard Rifle Brigade.
Title Pension Record Cards Description Pension Record Ledger - claimant Ellen Roberts - 11 Stafford Road. Walthamstow. Essex. (mother)
Reference Number 11/PP/10648, /D/48
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Service No: 16427 - Age: 23
Regiment/Service: Grenadier Guards, 1st Bn.
Son of Richard and Ellen Roberts, of 11, Stafford Rd., Walthamstow, Essex.
Le Touret Memorial
Richebourg-l'Avoue, Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
Plot Panel 2.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/15283963
Sandra
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UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 for Pvt Richard John Roberts - Ist Batt Gren Grds - 16427 - 4 june 1915 - in action - mother sole leg - Ellen - payment authorised 14.9.1915
Sandra
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1901 census Edmonton Middlesex.
Richard Roberts - Age 33 - police Constable (met)
Ellen Roberts - Age 26
Richard J Roberts - Age 8
William C Roberts - Age 5
Sandra
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UK, WWI Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923
William Charles Roberts - single
Rank Rifleman - Military Service Region Eastern/London/South East, England
Death Date 6 Feb 1916 - killed in action.
Service Number B/2014 - Regiment Rifle Brierde
Title: Pension Record Cards - Description Pension Record Ledger - Claimant Ellen Roberts (mother) - 11 Stafford Road, Walthamstow, Essex. Aged 46 years.
Reference Number: 11/PP/10648, /D/48
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Service No: B/2014
Age: 21
Regiment/Service: Rifle Brigade, 7th Bn.
Son of Richard and Ellen Roberts, of 11, Stafford Rd., Walthamstow, London.
Essex Farm Cemetery
Ypres (Ieper), Arrondissement Ieper, West Flanders (West-Vlaanderen), Belgium
Plot I. U. 3.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/11100233
Sandra
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UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 - William Charles Roberts
Death Date 6 Feb 1916 - Death Place Belgium
Rank Private - Regiment Rifle Brigade Regimental Number: B/2014
mother Ellen Roberts - sole legatee - account date 11/5/1916
Sandra
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Wow, thank you Sandra for the help. Do you know where I might be able to find a picture of Richard.
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I haven't come across one as yet. Unless you can come forward and research the other siblings (I believe there were more than these two boys) to see if you can make contact and hopefully swap any info with each other. You never know, someone may have a photograph.
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Yes there was 6 brothers
Richard John Roberts 1893-1915
George Morris Roberts 1894-1903
William Charlie's Roberts 1895-1916
Lenard Walter James Roberts 1908- unknown
Cyril Laurence Roberts 1911-2001
Lionel Roberts 1913-1892
That's all I know at the minute. Iv been trying to look for the regiment group photos for Richard and William but no luck as of yet. Any advice on where to look for them would be great.
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Hi Sandra,
Yes there was 6 brothers
Richard John Roberts 1893-1915
George Morris Roberts 1894-1903
William Charlie's Roberts 1895-1916
Lenard Walter James Roberts 1908- unknown
Cyril Laurence Roberts 1911-2001
Lionel Roberts 1913-1892
That's all I know at the minute. Iv been trying to look for the regiment group photos for Richard and William but no luck as of yet. Any advice on where to look for them would be great.
Have you worked the families forward to try and find other relatives or do you already know those relatives ?
Sandra
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Yes Sandra the only living relatives on this side that are alive that we know of is my dad and his sister.
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Hi Sandra,
Was just wondering how you found this information you gave me. Are you any relation to the Roberts?
Gemma
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Hi Gemma.
Sorry I am not related. Just enjoy the research and helping people. Information from subscription site.
Sandra
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Ok thank you me and my sister are trying to do this for my dad as he don’t know much about his family
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Would you know where I could find a group picture of
grenadier guards 1st battalion stationed at warley,London district and then joined the 20th brigade of the 7th division then moved to lyndhurst.
And a group photo of
Rifle brigade 1st battalion stationed at Colchester as part of the 11th brigade of the 4th division.
Thanks
Gemma
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Do you know where I might be able to find a picture of Richard
Local newspapers often carried photos of fallen men.
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Thanks Jim, Iv tried looking online for any pictures haven't come across any yet .
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Just to clarify the 1/GG were in the 20th. Bde. 7th. Div. in 1915.
He fell at Festubert while in the trenches which were heavily shelled & was one of 52 casualties.
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Yes Jim that's correct.