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Title: William Henry Coles
Post by: devongirl50 on Saturday 27 October 18 17:37 BST (UK)
My g-grandfather William Henry Coles born 29 March 1853 died 25 February 1933.

I have various documents confirming these dates e.g. family bible and navy records but the GRO do not have birth details in their index. I had hoped to find his mother's maiden name by purchasing the certificate.

I have found his death certificate.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: William Henry Coles
Post by: avm228 on Saturday 27 October 18 17:40 BST (UK)
You should be able to find mother’s maiden name from the GRO Online index, and the remainder of the details from purchasing the certificate itself.  What district was his birth registered in?
Title: Re: William Henry Coles
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 27 October 18 17:41 BST (UK)
Where do you have him in 1861 census.
Title: Re: William Henry Coles
Post by: avm228 on Saturday 27 October 18 17:41 BST (UK)
This one?

William Henry Coles, mother’s maiden name Sage, Mar qtr 1853 St Thomas 5b 39.
Title: Re: William Henry Coles
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 27 October 18 17:43 BST (UK)
We appear to have looked at this before
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=798293.0
Title: Re: William Henry Coles
Post by: devongirl50 on Saturday 27 October 18 20:43 BST (UK)
Yes Rosie I have asked before ; sorry.  I'm still struggling to find the correct paper trial.
I'm waiting for certificates from the GRO and will try to work it out.
Thank you for all your help everyone it is much appreciated.
William Henry Coles was born in Teignmouth Devon. I think his mother was Mary Ann Maynard but not sure.
Thank you again. Jenny.
Title: Re: William Henry Coles
Post by: devongirl50 on Saturday 27 October 18 20:48 BST (UK)
In 1861 William Henry Coles lived with his parents at 14 Brook Street West Teignmouth Devon. His father John was a carpenter.
William was eight years old.
Title: Re: William Henry Coles
Post by: devongirl50 on Saturday 27 October 18 21:15 BST (UK)
Found him!!!! I put his brothers Charles Edward and William Albert and sister Elizabeth Ann names in the GRO. I knew the Volume 05B covers Newton Abbot so I put that in as well.
They all came up  with the surname COLLES mis-spelt form of Coles.
Mother's maiden name was similar for each sibling either MAYNARD AND MAYNEARD,
A brick wall knocked down; thank you for your help. Jenny.
Title: Re: William Henry Coles
Post by: devongirl50 on Sunday 28 October 18 09:20 GMT (UK)
William Henry Coles surname was spelt in several different ways on documents ; Colles and Calls.
I have now discovered that he and his brother John married two sisters Francis Langdon and Alice Langdon.
John's name was spelt differently on all the census and birth records of his children. His probate confirmed he was who I believed as he left money to his brother-in-law.
This brick wall has taken me years to solve!!!! Thank you for putting me on the correct path.
Title: Re: William Henry Coles
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 28 October 18 12:18 GMT (UK)
Found him!!!! I put his brothers Charles Edward and William Albert and sister Elizabeth Ann names in the GRO. I knew the Volume 05B covers Newton Abbot so I put that in as well.
They all came up  with the surname COLLES mis-spelt form of Coles.
Mother's maiden name was similar for each sibling either MAYNARD AND MAYNEARD,
A brick wall knocked down; thank you for your help. Jenny.

That was the family I found for you in your other post   ;D



If this is the family you are looking at (1861)  :-\
John   Coles 40 bn Okehamptonton
Mary Ann   Coles 35 bn Crediton   
Elizabeth   9   
William H   8   
Charles E   6   
John    3   
William A   1   
Children all bn Teignmouth

Birth registrations
COLLES, ELIZABETH  ANN     mmn MAYNARD     
1852  March Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT  Volume 05B  Page 108   
 
COLLES, WILLIAM  HENRY     mmn MAYNARD     
1853  June Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT  Volume 05B  Page 105

COLLES, ELLEN       mmn MAYNEARD     (DIED March qtr 1855)
1854  Sept Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT  Volume 05B  Page 105

COLLES, CHARLES  EDWARD     mmn MAYNEARD     
1855  Sept Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT  Volume 05B  Page 100   

COLLES, WALTER  JOHN     mmn MINEARD     
1857  Dec Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT  Volume 05B  Page 100

COLLES, WILLIAM  ALBERT     mmn MAYNEARD     
1859  June Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT  Volume 05B  Page 111
Title: Re: William Henry Coles
Post by: devongirl50 on Sunday 28 October 18 14:16 GMT (UK)
Yes Rosie you have found all the siblings; thank you so much. I could not find them all on GRO so was not sure this was my g-grandfather's family.
My inexperience I believe! Thank you so much for your help. I kept searching for William Henry Coles's birth certificate using various spellings but could not find it.
John Walter Coles continued to use various spellings of his name even on his probate. It was only when I saw his wedding information that I realised he had married Alice Langdon a sister of my g-grandmother. So happy with all this information. Jenny.