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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: devongirl50 on Saturday 27 October 18 17:37 BST (UK)
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My g-grandfather William Henry Coles born 29 March 1853 died 25 February 1933.
I have various documents confirming these dates e.g. family bible and navy records but the GRO do not have birth details in their index. I had hoped to find his mother's maiden name by purchasing the certificate.
I have found his death certificate.
Any ideas?
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You should be able to find mother’s maiden name from the GRO Online index, and the remainder of the details from purchasing the certificate itself. What district was his birth registered in?
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Where do you have him in 1861 census.
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This one?
William Henry Coles, mother’s maiden name Sage, Mar qtr 1853 St Thomas 5b 39.
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We appear to have looked at this before
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=798293.0
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Yes Rosie I have asked before ; sorry. I'm still struggling to find the correct paper trial.
I'm waiting for certificates from the GRO and will try to work it out.
Thank you for all your help everyone it is much appreciated.
William Henry Coles was born in Teignmouth Devon. I think his mother was Mary Ann Maynard but not sure.
Thank you again. Jenny.
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In 1861 William Henry Coles lived with his parents at 14 Brook Street West Teignmouth Devon. His father John was a carpenter.
William was eight years old.
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Found him!!!! I put his brothers Charles Edward and William Albert and sister Elizabeth Ann names in the GRO. I knew the Volume 05B covers Newton Abbot so I put that in as well.
They all came up with the surname COLLES mis-spelt form of Coles.
Mother's maiden name was similar for each sibling either MAYNARD AND MAYNEARD,
A brick wall knocked down; thank you for your help. Jenny.
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William Henry Coles surname was spelt in several different ways on documents ; Colles and Calls.
I have now discovered that he and his brother John married two sisters Francis Langdon and Alice Langdon.
John's name was spelt differently on all the census and birth records of his children. His probate confirmed he was who I believed as he left money to his brother-in-law.
This brick wall has taken me years to solve!!!! Thank you for putting me on the correct path.
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Found him!!!! I put his brothers Charles Edward and William Albert and sister Elizabeth Ann names in the GRO. I knew the Volume 05B covers Newton Abbot so I put that in as well.
They all came up with the surname COLLES mis-spelt form of Coles.
Mother's maiden name was similar for each sibling either MAYNARD AND MAYNEARD,
A brick wall knocked down; thank you for your help. Jenny.
That was the family I found for you in your other post ;D
If this is the family you are looking at (1861) :-\
John Coles 40 bn Okehamptonton
Mary Ann Coles 35 bn Crediton
Elizabeth 9
William H 8
Charles E 6
John 3
William A 1
Children all bn Teignmouth
Birth registrations
COLLES, ELIZABETH ANN mmn MAYNARD
1852 March Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT Volume 05B Page 108
COLLES, WILLIAM HENRY mmn MAYNARD
1853 June Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT Volume 05B Page 105
COLLES, ELLEN mmn MAYNEARD (DIED March qtr 1855)
1854 Sept Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT Volume 05B Page 105
COLLES, CHARLES EDWARD mmn MAYNEARD
1855 Sept Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT Volume 05B Page 100
COLLES, WALTER JOHN mmn MINEARD
1857 Dec Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT Volume 05B Page 100
COLLES, WILLIAM ALBERT mmn MAYNEARD
1859 June Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT Volume 05B Page 111
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Yes Rosie you have found all the siblings; thank you so much. I could not find them all on GRO so was not sure this was my g-grandfather's family.
My inexperience I believe! Thank you so much for your help. I kept searching for William Henry Coles's birth certificate using various spellings but could not find it.
John Walter Coles continued to use various spellings of his name even on his probate. It was only when I saw his wedding information that I realised he had married Alice Langdon a sister of my g-grandmother. So happy with all this information. Jenny.