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Hi
I am looking for two female passengers who I believe arrived in Australia, probably Fremantle on the ship Eugenia, they are Elizabeth Ann Robinson and Emma Eaves or Eves, can anyone help?
Kind regards
Dragonfly
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Hi
Are you looking for what happened to them in Australia or their previous history?
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Welcome to Rootschat
Can you tell us when and where the ladies were born and when they arrived in Australia? Are they married or single?
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Hello and welcome also from me.
Do you mean the "Emma Eugenia"? There is this thread which has some resources noted already for the "Emma Eugenia" which arrived in 1858
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=787187.0
A notice of it's arrival doesn't have a passenger list but says only:
"22 married men, 21 married women, 5 single men, 117 single women, 7 boys, 11 girls and 3 infants"
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article66008688
Interesting item here about the passengers conduct during the voyage here too:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2930820
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article66007965
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Hi Maddy
Thanks for your reply, yes I do mean the Emma Eugenia, when I was researching generally I came across RootChat for the first time, and there was a post from someone that said someone named Merlin had indicated that they had the passenger list for the Emma Eugenia arriving in Fremantle in the 1850's, very grateful for any help I can get with this topic.
Thanks heaps
Beth
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Thanks also to Girl Guide and Millipede for your replies, the ladies came from England I think, the main reason I am looking for them is that Elizabeth married my Great Great Grandfather George Kershaw Brown and I am trying to develop a bit of a timeline to identify which George Brown (such a common name) millions of them, trying to find out how my George Kershaw Brown came to Australia, but all the lists contain George Brown's no George Kershaw Brown.
I found someone I think is him and I know that he arrived shortly before his future wife Elizabeth, he was probably travelling with a J Tomlinson. J Tomlinson marrried Emma Eves or Eaves.
Very grateful for any help I can get,
Beth
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This is the thread you mention where Merlin has the passenger list
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=711575.0
It would probably be an idea to either post a request on that thread, or send Merlin a personal message (click on the message icon under Merlin's name to message). :)
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Hi Maddy
Thanks heaps for that, will do as you suggest.
Kind regards
Beth
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Is this your George?
First name(s) George Kershaw
Last name Brown
Birth year 1823
Birth date 08 Mar 1823
Baptism year 1823
Baptism date 04 Jul 1823
Place Hitchin
Father's first name(s) William
Father's occupation Carpenter
Mother's first name(s) Ann Maria
Country England
Record set Hertfordshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
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I think this is his parents marriage:-
4th February 1815
William Brown of this parish to Anna Maria Kershaw also of this parish (Hitchin)
Bachelor and spinster
The witnesses appear to be a Lydia Brown and a Henry Kershaw
This is on Find My Past Hertfordshire marriages, original image.
You can see where the Kershaw comes from.
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I think it's very likely the Battye Library of Western Australia hold a nominal list of Immigrants on this ship and voyage on microfilm.
It may be worth contacting the Ask a Librarian service there.
https://slwa.wa.gov.au/contact-us
Also worth noting that although the marriages of EAVES and TOMLINSON and ROBINSON and BROWN took place a little later, the first registered births to both women were in 1860/61.
Sue
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George and Elizabeth's marriage:-
George Kershaw Brown
mentioned in the record of George Kershaw Brown and Elizabeth Ann Robinson
Name George Kershaw Brown
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Ann Robinson
Event Date 27 Dec 1861
Event Place Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Marital Status Single
Spouse's Marital Status Single
This is a transcript from Family Search. The records are Australia Marriages 1810 to 1980.
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Hi Girl Guide
I believe it probably is, I am just looking for more evidence so I can be sure.
Many thanks
Beth
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If you can get the original of George and Elizabeth's marriage then I believe they contain both parents names on the certificate.
We don't have that in the UK, only the fathers names.
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Would this help?
https://www.bdm.justice.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
Pick the marriage button, fill in the names etc. and it will come up with the order details.
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Hi again
Thanks for that, I have tried to get marriage certificate with no success but still trying, will do what you suggested and hopefully get a result, will let you know.
Warm regards
Beth
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Hi Dragon,
The suggested purchase of the marriage certificate will give some information about the couple.
However, I would bear in mind they are costly at nearly $50 Aust and unfortunately, the very bits of information you are seeking, may not be shown. Some certification requirements did not come into place until some years after the marriage dates of your people in W A
You will see-
Date
Couple's names
Couple's ages
Couple's birthplaces No
Previous status
Couple's occupations
Couple's residences
Fathers' names
Fathers' occupations
Groom's mothers name No
Bride's mothers name No
Sue