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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: stevej60 on Tuesday 16 October 18 01:01 BST (UK)
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Hi Folk's,could anyone shed some light on this place? My Gt Gt Grandfather John Ford Smith
was living there at the time of the 1901 Cencus.He was a widower around his mid seventies
and originally from Buckinghamshire but in 1851 resided in Newcastle then 1861-91 Gateshead.
was it what we would now call a retirement home? I believe it was run by nun's which I tend to
associate with Catholicism but the family were not,any help would be appreciated.
Regard's Steve.
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Census reference is RG13/4774 f174 p3
John Smith is described as an inmate lunatic, he possibly had a form of dementia as this is what would probably happen to someone like him at that time.
The home was St Joseph's home and was described on the 1901 as A charitable Institution run by the Little sisters of the poor and was located in George Road, Newcastle.
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1st page of the 1901 Census for St Josephs has it as a Charitable Institution conducted by the Little Sister of the Poor.
I am sure they would have taken in non Catholics also.
He doesnt appear on 1911 Census so this looks like his Death Reg;
June 1910
Smith, John, age 86, Newcastle upon Tyne 10b 55
Trish :)
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I read Inmate Rosie
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The home is still there see http://www.littlesistersofthepoor.co.uk/our-homes/newcastle/
Street view https://goo.gl/maps/RB5fh5nZego
Stan
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I read Inmate Rosie
You are correct Trish but it is very similar at first hasty glance ;D
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True :)
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Many thank's folk's the rest of the Family were really just over the bridge in Gateshead so the location make's
sense and that death look's possible Trish so thank's a trip toNewcastle library on the card's so I have at
least a three month period to look for a death notice which most family have had,he's the only Gt Gt Grandfather's burial site I've still to find.
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If you are going to the library soon check the Elswick burial records first for that time period. I think he may possibly be there if he had been at St Joseph. If you do find him there this will help narrow down what Evening Chronicle editions to look for death notice.
There is a blue file with microfilm numbers of the various relevant microfilms for cemeteries on the left hand side of filing cabinets beside microfilm readers on 6th floor.
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Thank's again RTL,using your link's I checked Gateshead cemeteries from 1901 till 1911 after that there were
no death's registered in Newcastle or Gateshead that were even near to his correct age so a Newcastle burial
is more likely.My youngest is at Uni now in Newcastle so I'll be in town regularly no doubt!
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Hi Steve,
Just in case you haven't been able to get to the library yet I have looked burial record up.
Elswick Cemetery
Entry 42542
John Smith
Age 86
Where death occurred: St Joseph's Home
Buried June 11 1910
Section Y Grave No. 132
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Click on link below on the Newcastle upon Tyne Cemetery Plans then on Elswick. Map shows where section Y is.
http://www.margaret-hall-genealogy.com/page9.htm
Unless I have missed it, I could not find a death notice - perhaps Nuns did not place one? Perhaps his actual date of death might be in a local RC Church register?
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Many Many thank's RTL,you're an absolute diamond!With my other GtGt Grandfather buried in Benwell
I'll make time to visit again thank you.
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You are welcome, Steve. Glad to have been able to help. :)
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My g.g. grandmother died in St Joseph's. The home still have records and may be able to tell you the exact date. They were able to tell me exactly when mine died.