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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: David0088 on Saturday 13 October 18 12:46 BST (UK)
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Hi, i am looking for some help with finding out more information about my third great aunt Margaret Murrin nee Dalton and her children. She was born in Balrothery Swords sometime in the 1850s her parents were Edward Dalton and Ellen Tighe. Her siblings were Anne,Catherine, Bridget, Mary and John.
She married a William Murrin in 1883 and they had three children William 1884, Edward 1885 and Ellen 1888, they lived in Upper Dorset st and Blessington street Dublin. William Murrin was a groom and in December 1887 he died from falling from a horse while Margaret was pregnant with Ellen.
I cant find any records relating to Margaret or her children, i have tried searching the 1901 and 1911 census. I have looked to on Irish Genealogy for death records and marriage records. Any help is much appreciated.
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Hi, i am looking for some help with finding out more information about my third great aunt Margaret Murrin nee Dalton and her children. She was born in Balrothery Swords sometime in the 1850s her parents were Edward Dalton and Ellen Tighe. Her siblings were Anne,Catherine, Bridget, Mary and John.
She married a William Murrin in 1883 and they had three children William 1884, Edward 1885 and Ellen 1888, they lived in Upper Dorset st and Blessington street Dublin. William Murrin was a groom and in December 1887 he died from falling from a horse while Margaret was pregnant with Ellen.
I cant find any records relating to Margaret or her children, i have tried searching the 1901 and 1911 census. I have looked to on Irish Genealogy for death records and marriage records. Any help is much appreciated.
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Marriage of WILLIAM MURRIN of 70 UP DORSET ST and MARGARET DALTON of 70 UP DORSET ST
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.mary%27s-pro-cath_mf_1862-1881_ma_0072
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I only looked for Ellen age 12 +/-5 yrs....
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01muu/
no sign of her
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William's baptism appears on Irish Genealogy as William Patrick Morris the priest has written some Latin in the remarks column with regard to Mortis possibly in danger of death ?
52 here
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.marys_pro-cathedral_mf_1880-1889_ba_0469
though he seems to have survived and got married in 1907 transcribed as William Monin to Mary Kilmartin
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10082/5667038.pdf
appears to have only registered his twins William and Patrick in 1908
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01656/1660530.pdf
from Glasnevin Trust William died 1 day old Patrick a week old
married 4yrs not 21 3 born 1 alive
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Tyrone_Street__Lower/17692/
possibly died from T B 1923 at 47 Railway St
274 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05050/4382887.pdf
Ellen's baptism
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.michans_mf_1856-1888_ba_0287
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see other thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=801892.msg6597302#new
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William's baptism appears on Irish Genealogy as William Patrick Morris the priest has written some Latin in the remarks column with regard to Mortis possibly in danger of death ?
52 here
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.marys_pro-cathedral_mf_1880-1889_ba_0469
though he seems to have survived and got married in 1907 transcribed as William Monin to Mary Kilmartin
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10082/5667038.pdf
appears to have only registered his twins William and Patrick in 1908
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01656/1660530.pdf
from Glasnevin Trust William died 1 day old Patrick a week old
married 4yrs not 21 3 born 1 alive
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/North_Dock/Tyrone_Street__Lower/17692/
possibly died from T B 1923 at 47 Railway St
274 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05050/4382887.pdf
Ellen's baptism
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.michans_mf_1856-1888_ba_0287
Thanks for this, i'll have a read through now.
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sadly no point looking for Ellen she appears to have died at 3 weeks old in 1888
389 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1888/06178/4766013.pdf
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It was posted that no death records were found!
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Marriage results for Murrin of Dublin from 1880 to 1915 ; Death results for Murrin of Dublin
from 1880 to 1915
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01muv/
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I see one for Edward too!
Can be found very easily via Link I posted.
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Very difficult replying on 2 threads....
Edward's death can be found very easily via the Link posted on other thread!!
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Edward's death is a bit confusing as he was born 1885 at 93 Dorset St
408 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02626/1968920.pdf
and died at same address 1887 age 3 hours
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1887/06214/4778161.pdf
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No shortage of confusion!
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If you know the name of any of them still alive in 1901 then try looking for that name on Census.
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sorted by Glasnevin Edward 1885 and Edward 1887 both infants Dorset St
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I cant find any records relating to Margaret or her children, i have tried searching the 1901 and 1911 census. I have looked to on Irish Genealogy for death records and marriage records. Any help is much appreciated.
All to be found very very easily!
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sorted by Glasnevin Edward 1885 and Edward 1887 both infants Dorset St
Yes...those are the 2 Edwards!
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son John from the 1911 census possibly died age 9 in 1919 at 32 Upr Gloucester St
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05152/4420472.pdf
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The marriage for William Murrins son William Monin appears correct, i think i found it before but didn't read it carefully so i dismissed it. Very sad that he and his two sons died young. William died nearly at the same age as his father. his father's death in 1887 was mentioned in the newspaper.
I have not reviewed the other information yet about Edward appears there is even more sadness.
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and his sister Ellen too :(
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The Dublin Workhouse records on FindMyPast pay site of which i am not a member so cant state that the following are yours for certain
from searching the index
William Murrin born 1884/1886
Workhouse admission and discharge registers 1895
Dublin Poor Law Unions board of guardians minute books 1896
Irish Prison Registers 1918 and 1919
John Murrin born 1910/1911 Workhouse admission and discharge registers 1916/1918
strangely there are no hits for mother Margaret
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Just wanted to add that Balrothery and Swords are 2 different places about 17km apart. There is a place near Swords called Balheary though.