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Request information on the marriage of Dorothy Ellen Hawke. She was the daughter of James Roy Hawke and Margaret Elllen Hawke, nee Melville, born 1915 in Frome District, South Australia.
Also any information on the birth of her mother, Margaret Ellen Melville, born about 1892.
Many thanks, Dave
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Going by the marriage record for her parents
Maggie Ellen Melville father Alexander Murray Melville
Spouse James Roy Hawke father James Renfrey Hawke
Marriage 2 December 1914 Adelaide
This is the birth for Maggie Ellen Melville about 1891 Melbourne Victoria
Father Alex Murray Melville
Mother Rebecca McKenzie
Rosie
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Thank you rosie17
Dave
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Not found a marriage for Dorothy but looks like a possibility on the Electoral Records she is with parents at 3,Glengary Street Albert Park Hindmarsh South Australia 1939
1941 she is at the same address Dorothy Ellen Ansell home duties
Derek Reginald Ansell ..storeman
Death for Derek Reginald Ansell 1974 Footscray Victoria age 61 years
Just found notice of marriage www.trove.nla.gov.au September 1939
Rosie
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You may be interested in this news item.
A lengthy account of the sudden death through accident of Alexander Murray MELVILLE. 1917
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/109504456
In Memoriam in 1935 placed by his wife.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/110538726
Sue
ADDING
Details of the birth given in part above.
MELVILLE, Maggie Ellen
Parents Alex Murray MELVILLE
Mother Rebecca McKENZIE
Year 1891
At Melbourne
Reg. 25189
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And to add a "fun fact"...James Roy Hawke as mentioned above, born 1891, had a brother Arthur Clarence Hawke born 1898. Known as Clem, Arthur was the father of Australian Prime Minister, Bob Hawke.
But you probably knew that ;)
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The Advertiser 12Sept1939 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/41091093
HAWKE —ANSELL. —The marriage of Dorothy, only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. J. R. Hawke, of Woodville, to Derek, younger son of Mr. and Mrs. E. P. Ansell, of Payneham, will be solemnised at the Flinders Street Baptist Church, on Saturday, the 16th of September, at 7 p.m. The Rev. C. A. Hawke will officiate. All friends cordially invited to the ceremony.
The Advertiser 4Oct1939 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/74432358
ANSELL—HAWKE.
The marriage of Dorothy only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. J. R. Hawke of Woodville to Derek, younger son of Mr. and Mrs. E. F. Ansell. of Pavneham, took place on September 16 at Flinders street Baptlst Church, Rev C. A Hawke, an uncle of the bride, officiated.
The bride who was given away by her father, wore...
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Advertiser 31Aug1943 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/48765491
BIRTHS
ANSELL (nee Dorothy Hawke).—On August 30, at Memorial Hospital—a son.
Thanking Dr. Parkhouse and nursing staff
Chronicle 9Sept1943 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/92707139
ANSELL (nee Dorothy Hawke). — On August 30. at Memorial Hospital, to Mr.
and Mrs. Derek Ansell, of Woodville — a son.
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You may be interested in this news item.
A lengthy account of the sudden death through accident of Alexander Murray MELVILLE. 1917
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/109504456
In Memoriam in 1935 placed by his wife.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/110538726
Sue
ADDING
Details of the birth given in part above.
MELVILLE, Maggie Ellen
Parents Alex Murray MELVILLE
Mother Rebecca McKENZIE
Year 1891
At Melbourne
Reg. 25189
There are two other births VIC with different mother's maiden name:
1886 MELVILLE James Hutcheon parents Alexander Murr and Rebecca (Mckendrick) - marriage 1915 265/190 MELVILLE James Hutcheon to STEPHENS Mildred May Frome - death SA 1961
1894 MELVILLE Agnes Pearl parents Alex Murray and Rebecca (Mckendrick) - marriage SA 1916 267/325 MILDREN Herbert Roy to MELVILLE Agnes Pearl Frome - death 1955 837/102 MILDREN Agnes Pearl Herbert Roy MILDREN [H] Adelaide
Their deaths SA:
1917 MELVILLE Alex M 60y Peterborough
1943 667/4099 MELVILLE Rebecca - Alexander Murray MELVILLE [DH] Adelaide
Rebecca's death and funeral notices: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article48764190
Marriage Scotland:
1883 644/1 127 MELVILLE Alexander M to MCKENDRICK Rebecca at Bridgeton
This will give you parents and mothers’ maiden names.
Possible arrival NSW. Age of Alexander fits with his age at death:
MELVILLE Alexander 28 Bombay 1885 Sydney and wife Reels 2143, 2496
MELVILLE Rebecca 25 Bombay 1885 Sydney and husband Reels 2143, 2496
http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?Page=NRS5316/4_4810/S%20S%20Bombay_5%20Jun%201885/4_481000119.jpg&No=7
Only one birth for a Rebecca McKendrick between 1859-1861 and it’s in Paisley, Renfrewshire:
1859 573/1 521 MCKENDRICK Rebecca Paisley High Church
Think this could be Alexander on the 1881 census, with a Mrs Melville aged 50 and Helen Melville aged 21, but can’t find Rebecca:
MELVILLE Alexander 1881 M 24 644/1 18/ 14 Bridgeton Lanark
On the 1871 with a Christina aged 40:
MELVILLE Alexander 1871 M 14 644/3 40/ 8 Bridgeton Lanark
On the 1861 with Christina 33 and John 30:
MELVILLE Alexander 1861 M 4 644/3 94/ 4 Bridgeton Lanark
Jamjar
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Request information on the marriage of Dorothy Ellen Hawke. She was the daughter of James Roy Hawke and Margaret Elllen Hawke, nee Melville, born 1915 in Frome District, South Australia.
Also any information on the birth of her mother, Margaret Ellen Melville, born about 1892.
Many thanks, Dave
There is another child to James and Margaret, born 1919:
Free to search: https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html
Jamjar
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Thank you all for some amazing results, I have enough information to keep me occupied for some time.
Dave
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Request information on the marriage of Dorothy Ellen Hawke. She was the daughter of James Roy Hawke and Margaret Elllen Hawke, nee Melville, born 1915 in Frome District, South Australia.
Also any information on the birth of her mother, Margaret Ellen Melville, born about 1892.
Many thanks, Dave
From my resource which has a little more information.
Birth
HAWKE Dorothy Ellen
11 Sep 1915
Father James Roy HAWKE Mother Maggie Ellen MELVILLE
At Petersburg Fro 965/483 [Petersburg became known as Peterborough from 1918]
Marriage index only extends to 1937 in SA however the certificates are restricted for 75 years. https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/family-and-community/births,-deaths-and-marriages/family-research
Dorothy's engagement and 21st in Sep 1936 with photograph.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article48177768
Australian Electoral Roll
SA 1941
ANSELL Derek Reginald 3 Glengarry Street, Woodville Storeman
ANSELL Dorothy Ellen 3 Glengarry Street, Woodville HD
SA 1943
ANSELL Derek Reginald 21a Koolunga Avenue Woodville Fitter
ANSELL Dorothy Ellen 21a Koolunga Avenue Woodville HD
Vic 1958
ANSELL Derek Reginald Ontario Avenue, Corio Clerk
ANSELL Dorothy Ellen Ontorio Avenue, Corio Teacher
Vic 1963
ANSELL Derek Reginald Ontario Avenue, Corio Clerk
ANSELL Dorothy Ellen Ontorio Avenue, Corio HD
Dorothy was still in Adelaide in 1949 when Joan MELVILLE married my OH's third cousin, George SKIPWORTH.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article130244326
Birth of a son in 1943
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article48766067
Birth of a daughter in 1951
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article45718110
Derek was cremated at Altona Memorial Park. There is no location for his cremated remains.
ANSELL Derek Reginald Died 13 Dec 1973 Date of service 17 Dec 1973.
Cando
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Thank you cando for the information and your PM. I think my post was a little misleading as I can never have too much info. Sorry for the confusion
Dave
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Request information on the marriage of Dorothy Ellen Hawke. She was the daughter of James Roy Hawke and Margaret Elllen Hawke, nee Melville, born 1915 in Frome District, South Australia.
Also any information on the birth of her mother, Margaret Ellen Melville, born about 1892.
Many thanks, Dave
There is another child to James and Margaret, born 1919:
Free to search: https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html
Jamjar
Birth and death of the other child:
1919 31A/62 HAWKE Alexander Renfrey parents James Roy HAWKE and Maggie Ellen MELVILLE Port Adelaide
Advertiser HAWKE Alexander Renfrey 1981
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Alexander-Renfrey-Hawke/4299932
Jamjar
Added: I see that you have a separate thread for him. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=801697.0
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Thank you. Regret late reply, I've been on holiday
Dave