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Title: Herbert
Post by: kayla0609 on Tuesday 02 October 18 11:37 BST (UK)
Hi hoping someone can help me I am looking for RAF records on a Frederick Herbert born 1900 Islington.

I think too young for WW1 not sure about WW2 so dont really know how to go about searching.

His father was Richard James Hebert.

       Thank you

Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 02 October 18 12:07 BST (UK)
How do you know he was in the RAF?

See  www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=651361.0
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: kayla0609 on Tuesday 02 October 18 12:40 BST (UK)
He was my great uncle there was a phot of him in uniform many years ago.
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: [Ray] on Tuesday 02 October 18 13:04 BST (UK)
Hi     

Richard James Herbert married Martha Poynter 1888 Qjun Islington 1b 331     
1900 Qdec Islington 1b 166 Stanley George Herbert mmn Poynter


Harry Herbert married Louisa Harmon 1895 Qjun Islington 1895 1b 331     
1900 Qjun Islington 1b 388 Frederick Herbert has mmn Harmon     


Where have I gone wrong?     :-(

Ray
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: [Ray] on Tuesday 02 October 18 13:15 BST (UK)


Even tried . . . . .     

James Robert Herbert married Jane Ada Glanvill 1891 Qsep Islington 1b 466     
 
Frederick Richard Herbert 1898 Qsep Islington 1b 389 has mmn Glanvill

 
 
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: MaxD on Tuesday 02 October 18 13:22 BST (UK)
Deleted - looked for the wrong name! Thanks [Ray]

Max
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: [Ray] on Tuesday 02 October 18 13:26 BST (UK)




1905  Qsep ISLINGTON  1B  155  FREDERICK  EDMUND HERBERT mmn POYNTER     
ie Parents  = Richard & Martha

Where does the family detail come from?     

 

Ray

 
 
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 02 October 18 13:31 BST (UK)
The Frederick Herbert referred to in opening post was born 1900 Islington

Per freebmd Frederick Herbert June qtr 1900 Islington 1b 388
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: [Ray] on Tuesday 02 October 18 13:36 BST (UK)


As posted earlier (reply #4)  = Father's name Harry Herbert and not as per original post
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: [Ray] on Tuesday 02 October 18 13:43 BST (UK)


Family "alluded" to (?)     

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01msr/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01msr/)     


The Frederick, son of Richard, would appear to have been born "1905"     
as per replies #4 and #7 (?)     

I am still asking where I've gone wrong?     
 :)
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 02 October 18 14:40 BST (UK)
The poster is asking for advice re: RAF records and does not appear to be asking for the ancestry of his Gt uncle at this stage

If the 1900 birth is the correct one - his mmn was Harmon and therefore links to the Harry Herbert/Louisa Harmon marriage - details of which you posted earlier
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: [Ray] on Tuesday 02 October 18 14:58 BST (UK)

In order not to waste time/effort looking for people with "invalid" detail, I attempted to verify the start point.     

That's all.     ( I don't see anything wrong with that )
Typo? Speeling?  :) DoB?      (Anything could be wrong.)     


Original post = "His father was Richard James Hebert."   ( not Harry )     
As you have now said . . . . . "If the 1900  is the correct one ",      then father cannot be Richard     

Either the Father is incorrect or the DoB is incorrect . . . . .     

maybe putting this one (back) in the frame     
1905  Qsep ISLINGTON  1B  155  FREDERICK  EDMUND HERBERT mmn POYNTER     
(Parents  = Richard & Martha)
















Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: kayla0609 on Tuesday 02 October 18 16:09 BST (UK)
Frederick Herbert (father Richard James) was the brother of my grandmother Marion Ada Herbert.Just wanted advice on RAF info.
But thank you all
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: kayla0609 on Tuesday 02 October 18 16:09 BST (UK)
Poynter was his mother.
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 02 October 18 18:01 BST (UK)
Kayla

If his mothers maiden name was Poynter then he was not born 1900 as per your opening post.  He was Frederick Edmund Herbert born 1905 as per Ray’s reply at #6

You are looking for RAF records that are not available online.  See link given in my first reply

In 1939 he was living in Lewisham and was not at that time in the RAF so may have enlisted during WW2
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: kayla0609 on Tuesday 02 October 18 18:15 BST (UK)
Thank you for this info I thought he may of been to old for WW2 but will definitely check.
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: [Ray] on Tuesday 02 October 18 19:43 BST (UK)


So, for completion, this is the gentleman . . . . .

1973 Jun Bedford 4a 156 Frederick Edmund Herbert (25 JE 1905 )       
( from FreeBMD.org.uk )     

Ray



Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: [Ray] on Tuesday 02 October 18 20:16 BST (UK)
Kayla     

Frederick appears on registers/rolls from 1934 onwards ( with your grandmother and others )       

There is a clue to his possible RAF career.     
Due to Rootschat Copyright Rules re 1939 Register, I cannot post the detail here.     
You'll need to look it up yourself ?     

Ray

Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: kayla0609 on Thursday 04 October 18 12:14 BST (UK)
Thank you for this message can you do private email re RAF.
Title: Re: Herbert
Post by: [Ray] on Thursday 04 October 18 14:29 BST (UK)
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