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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Devon => England => Devon Lookup Requests => Topic started by: elaine gray on Monday 01 October 18 00:32 BST (UK)
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Jo, the above lady was born in Plymouth, Devon about 1808 and died in Tavistock in 1887. She was married to John northey but he died young in 1833 she then married Waterfield. Her father was William ferris and her mother was Hannah. Trying to find marriage for William and hannah to get her maiden name and not having in luck on the sites I've tried. Does anyone have any ideas, I've tried census but can't find them there either. Thank you
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Hi
Have you looked at the marriage in Maker, Cornwall in 1806 ? William FERRIS to Hannah COOMBS on21 Dec 1806. In terms of geography the two places are only 23 miles from each other.
Claire
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Hi Claire, wow! That must be them, 2 years before Mary Jane was born. Amazing, thanks very much. No, I've never seen that one. Night
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There is also an Elizabeth Ferris, daughter of William & Hannah, baptised 7 Nov 1810 at Plymouth St Andrew (Mary Ferris baptised there on 19 Jul 1807).
Then a large gap and and the following baptisms.....
Moses Ferris, s/o William & Hannah 22 Aug 1824, Plymouth St Andrew - father a rope maker
John Ferris, s/o William & Hannah, 31 Dec 1818, East Stonehouse- father a rope maker
Theophilus Ferris, s/o William & Hannah, 1826, East Stonehouse - father a rope maker.
Jo :)
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Hi, I've seen Theo before, I think Mary Jane named one of her sons that. It's unusual and stood out. That was a son to her second husband. Grateful for your reply.
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Another daughter - Sarah Jane, born 6 Apr 1829 (bap 1 June 1829) d/o William and Hannah, rope maker, at Morice Street (Wesleyan) Devonport.
William Ferris, born 16 Jul 1815, East Stonehouse, s/o William & Ann, rope maker.EDITED
Theophilus joined the merchant navy in 1841 and there are Royal Navy allotments for him to his mother Anna between 1844 - 1848.
1 Oct 1841 - Thomas Ferris (alias Theophilus), ordinary seaman, allotment to his mother, Anna Ferris, of 40 Duke Street Devonport.
1841 - DUKE STREET, Stoke Damerel Devonport
Hannah Ferris, 60, BIC
William Ferris, 25, seaman, BIC
Sarah Ferris, 15, BIC
Jo :)
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A possible death for William....
William Ferris, age 54, buried 9 Jul 1837, East Stonehouse Devon.
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Another possible sister, although I can't find a baptism record.....
William Muchmore married Hannah Ferris, 11 May 1833 at East Stonehouse, witnessed by William Ferris & Eleanor Cross.
In 1841 & 1851 William & Hannah Muchmore are in Chatham Kent and have a son named Theophilus....
Jo :)
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I've just found this post and I have Waterfield and Ferris in my Tree. My mother was a Waterfield and her father was born in Tavistock. They ended up living in Millbrook which is near Maker.
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Hi there, thanks for the message. I will tell you what I know. My gtgtgt grandmother was Elizabeth northey and her father was John northey married to Mary ferris. Elizabeth married george blake in Tavistock in 1853 ish. John northey died young, at a guess, when Mary was pregnant or when Elizabeth was a baby. He was a tin miner and may have been killed in mine. Mary then married Waterfield and had children with him.
Do you have a family tree somewhere?? Here's my email elainegray2010@hotmail.co.uk, I have a name that shows up and I can't remember it and will get back to you with it and hopefully it might mean something to you. I have a tree on my heritage you are welcome to see but this Tavistock side is still a bit of a mystery to me.
Regards, Elaine
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John Northey, 23, of Ford St, was buried at Tavistock on 10 May 1833.
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The widowed Mary Northey’s marriage to Robert Waterfield took place at Tavistock parish church on 29 October 1834.
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Elizabeth married george blake in Tavistock in 1853 ish.
Elizabeth Northey’s marriage to George Blake was 20 December 1851.
The banns & marriage registers don’t indicate that she was a minor (under 21), but she would have been if her age of 29 in the 1861 census is correct.
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Hi, that must be John's death!!! Re Elizabeth age i had calculated her birth circa 1833. Thanks
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Re the name I couldn't remember, it was Doidge, I've checked old notes and messages and a John northey married a Jane Doidge in 1825, there was an Elizabeth Doidge northey born abt the same time as my Elizabeth, I seem to have dismissed Elizabeth Doidge northey as she seems to appear in a later census as unmarried. Now, strangely enough, one of the children from Mary northey née ferris second marriage to Waterfield had Doidge as a middle name. So where does Doidge fit into both these Elizabeth's.??? I'm sure I've got this right. Could the Doidge connection be with the Waterfields????
Elaine
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Elizabeth Doidge Northey is your Elizabeth, surely?
Wesleyan Chapel, Tavistock
Elizth Doidge, the daughter of John Northey miner of Tavistock and of Mary his wife, who was the daughter of William and Hannah Ferris, was born June 3rd and baptised June 24th 1832 by me, John Baker.
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So Elizabeth was about 11 months old when her father John died.
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Wow, now why on earth did I dismiss her, will have to look at that again. I'm sure I found an Elizabeth, same age, living with Doidge couple in a census and they were grandparents. I have an Elizabeth northey in the 1851 census living with the Richards and she is a niece, born Tavistock, date fits. Can't remember the first name, but male Richards is a witness to marr to George blake. I wondered if Elizabeth didn't live with her mother when she remarried. Must revisit this now as I'll not be content until I've solved it!! Thank you
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Hello again, I've just looked at 1871 census and there's an Elizabeth northey aged 40, living with her father who's clerk of lime quarry. There's a birth for an Elizabeth to John northey and jane Doidge. So there is two Elizabeth's born to two John northeys, but obviously the one in the 1871 census isn't mine as she was married to George blake years before! Where I'm now puzzled is the fact that the one (mine) was Elizabeth Doidge northey but her mother wasn't Jane Doidge. Think I need a glass of red!!!!
Elaine