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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: Catherine86 on Friday 07 September 18 22:55 BST (UK)
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Hi!
I've come across a marriage certificate for William Thomas Earley. However, in the section for the Father's name, it is left blank.
I then checked Lancashire BMD for his birth to find out his Mother's maiden name but it came up Earley for Mother's maiden name too.
Please could you point me in the right direction as to where to look next? How can I find more about the Mother? Doubtful I will ever know anything about his Father.
I have noticed that sometimes he is listed as William Thomas Hurley. (Though this was around 1900)
He becomes a patient as Prestwich Asylum in his later years.
William Thomas Hurley
b. 1862 Manchester
d. 1916 Manchester
Any advice would be great... thanks!
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It looks likely to be a case of illegitimate birth. If you order the birth certificate you will obtain details of his mother, but probably not his father.
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Have you looked for him in 1871 when he might be with his mother?
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Have you found him in censuses before his marriage?
If 20 at marriage (1880), born 1860 or trying to appear older?
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William Thomas Hurley
b. 1862 Manchester
It was 1861 not 1862 - surname Earley
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Yes, likely birth reg is as William Thomas Earley, Dec qtr 1861 Chorlton 8c 482.
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Yes, likely birth reg is as William Thomas Earley, Dec qtr 1861 Chorlton 8c 482.
Actually there is a Catholic baptism transcribed on LanOPC corresponding to this birth.
St Aloysius, Ardwick, 20 Oct 1861
Gulielmus Thomas Earley, filius Georgii Howley [sic] et Hannae. Born 1 Oct 1861.
Godparents: Scholes Scholes; Maria A. Smyth.
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
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Thanks for the quick responses!
Yes, sorry it was 1861 he was born.
avm228 - Wow, thanks! So helpful - and so quick. I do appreciate it, thanks for your time!
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Given that “Howley” cropped up on the baptism, you might want to look at Ann Howley (28 b Stockport) in Cowell’s Buildings, Ardwick in 1871. She is an unmarried mother of 9yo William (middle initial looks like L, but that could be an error) and John, 20 months.
RG10/3977/166/48.
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Given that “Howley” cropped up on the baptism, you might want to look at Ann Howley (28 b Stockport) in Cowell’s Buildings, Ardwick in 1871. She is an unmarried mother of 9yo William (middle initial looks like L, but that could be an error) and John, 20 months.
RG10/3977/166/48.
Thanks so much for your help avm228. This could well be the mother. So kind of you to look into this for me.
As you suggested earlier, I will order the birth certificate and hopefully confirm.
Thanks all!
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You’re welcome. As you probably know, the cheapest way to get the certificate information is to order a PDF for £6 through the current GRO Online pilot service:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
Do update the thread when it arrives - it’s always nice to know how things turn out :)
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St Saviour Ringley
22nd October 1838
Hannah Howley
daughter of Thomas and Ann
abode Kersley
fathers occupaton is labourer
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Have you found his baptism record?
One of mine was illegitimate but his baptism record names his father
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You’re welcome. As you probably know, the cheapest way to get the certificate information is to order a PDF for £6 through the current GRO Online pilot service:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
Do update the thread when it arrives - it’s always nice to know how things turn out :)
Thanks, I just ordered now so I will be back once I have the certificate. :) I didn't know that PDF options were available, in the past I've just ordered a paper copy so thank you for letting me know!
St Saviour Ringley
22nd October 1838
Hannah Howley
daughter of Thomas and Ann
abode Kersley
fathers occupaton is labourer
Thanks, Radcliff.. I will look into this :)
Have you found his baptism record?
One of mine was illegitimate but his baptism record names his father
I have just ordered a copy of the baptism now, so will find out soon! :) Im hoping his Father will be mentioned.
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Baptism details are transcribed upthread at reply #6 - not the same thing as the birth certificate which you’ve now ordered.
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Hi all,
Just an update.
The certificate did not mention a Father at all.
His mother's name is Ann Earley.