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Title: Ann Robertson convict
Post by: dpaton on Thursday 06 September 18 11:05 BST (UK)
Looking for information on who Ann Robertson was before she was convicted in Glasgow on 1st May 1819 and transported on the Janus.  Would like to find out who her parents were and where she was born.
Title: Re: Ann Robertson convict
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 06 September 18 13:04 BST (UK)
Where was Ann transported to?
Title: Re: Ann Robertson convict
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 06 September 18 13:21 BST (UK)
Only info I can find on her Ruskie.


Convicted at:   Glasgow Court of Justiciary
Sentence term:   7 years
Ship:   Janus
Departure date:   23rd October, 1819
Arrival date:   3rd May, 1820
Place of arrival   New South Wales
Passenger manifest   Travelled with 68 other convicts
convictrecords.com.au

Trish :)
Title: Re: Ann Robertson convict
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 06 September 18 13:29 BST (UK)
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ROBINSON, Ann. Per "Janus", 1820

1821 Feb 5,10
Re permission to marry John Leather at Parramatta (Reel 6007; 4/3503 pp.88-9)
1821 Sep 3,4
Re permission to marry George Tallentire at Sydney (Reel 6008; 4/3504 p.299)


TALLENTIRE, Ann. Per "Janus", 1820 as Ann Robertson; wife of George Tallentire

1822 Sep 17-Nov 5

Petitions by her & her husband George for mitigation of his sentence (Fiche 3228; 4/1868 pp.3-6)

1824 Sep 29

Sentenced to the Factory for six months. On return of fines & punishments in the Police Office; listed as Mary Tallantyne or Robinson (Reel 6023; 4/6671 p.92)





Source colsec.records.nsw.gov.au
Title: Re: Ann Robertson convict
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 06 September 18 13:31 BST (UK)
TALLENTIRE, George. Per "Batavia", 1818

1821 Sep 3,4

Re permission to marry Ann Robinson [Robertson] at Sydney (Reel 6008; 4/3504 p.299)

1822 Sep, Nov
Petitions by him & his wife Ann for mitigation of his sentence (Fiche 3228; 4/1868 pp.3, 6)

1824 Jun 14
On return of convicts discharged from the Establishment, Emu Plains; to Sydney (Reel 6028; /8283 p.195)
1825 Oct 13
Petition for mitigation of sentence (Fiche 3252; 4/1875 p.224). Reply, 10 Nov (Reel 6015; 4/3515 p.569)

Australia not my area of expertise so will leave it as this from me.
Title: Re: Ann Robertson convict
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 06 September 18 13:50 BST (UK)
A Tree has her born c 1790 Scotland, died 21 AUG 1871 • Hyde Park Asylum
George died 1844
His death is on NSW BMD but cant find Ann to confirm her age.

This would help with a search in Scotland for her.

A Ann Tallentire married John Logan 1845
May be her or a Daughter?
Title: Re: Ann Robertson convict
Post by: Lodger on Thursday 06 September 18 17:33 BST (UK)
This is what the National Records of Scotland has on her.

   GB
Repository code   234
Repository   National Records of Scotland
Reference   AD14/19/236
Title   Precognition against Ann Robertson for the crime of uttering forged notes
Dates   1819
Access status   Open
Location   On site
Level   File
Finding aids   19th Century Solemn Database
Related material   JC26/1819/114
Accused   Ann Robertson, Age: 23, muslin and linen sewer, Address: Prisoner in Glasgow, formerly High Street, Edinburgh.


JC26/1819/142
Title   Productions: Trial of Ann Robertson and John Docherty for the crime of forgery.


Ann Robertson, prisoner in the tolbooth of Glasgow, for the crime of issuing forged notes [p32]. Plea: Guilty. Verdict: Guilty in terms of confession. Sentence: Transportation beyond the seas for 7 years [minute book ref: JC13/46/52v-53r];
Title: Re: Ann Robertson convict
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 07 September 18 03:04 BST (UK)
From NSW Archives site https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/search_form?id=65:

ROBERTSON   Ann      
Vessel: Janus   
year: 1820   
no: 029/5289   
date: 11 May 1826   
Record type: Certificate of Freedom   
citation: [4/4424; Reel 602]

Find My Past has some decent convict records which might be worth looking up.
Title: Re: Ann Robertson convict
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 07 September 18 03:12 BST (UK)
When did Ann die?  Would her death certificate give names of her parents?

Trove has a death notice in The Sydney Morning Herald for Ann Tallentine who died 21 Aug 1871 aged 95 (giving a birth of around 1776).

Might this be your Ann?

Added: It might be worth looking at the names of her children in case she followed the Scottish naming pattern. This may give some clues.
Title: Re: Ann Robertson convict
Post by: dpaton on Friday 07 September 18 08:55 BST (UK)
Thanks, I am really only looking for her past in Scotland as I have all the info on her in Australia.
Title: Re: Ann Robertson convict
Post by: dpaton on Friday 07 September 18 09:11 BST (UK)
Hi Lodger,  Thanks for that information interesting that her age is put at 23 younger than I thought was reported on her Australian records.  Where do I go to research this info further to find out if it is the same Ann Robertson who arrived in Australia on the Janus in 1820. Dpaton
Title: Re: Ann Robertson convict
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 07 September 18 10:47 BST (UK)
NSW Death Reg has Ann as age 85.