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Title: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: virsonlia on Friday 31 August 18 16:24 BST (UK)
Once again I am returning to the Lemon Family of Dungannon Co Tyrone.
I have located with Rootschat help Wm. James  Lemon marriage to Marg Mcateer 1878 ,Drumglass Parish Dungannon.
From the marriage I note Father of Wm. James as William Lemon ,farmer. This is the individual i have no family info on. I have looked to PRONI to ask for Birth Certificate of Wm James but a mother's name is required. Any suggestions?
I have looked at Irish Geneology-William Lemon is a common name .
Family Search.org  presents the same issues
i have looked at  the parish records for the Drumglass on line. Difficult to read.

Any direction is welcome.
thanks  virsonlia   
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: chempat on Friday 31 August 18 16:31 BST (UK)
Have you found Wm. James  Lemon in 1901 or 1911 census?
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: hallmark on Friday 31 August 18 16:54 BST (UK)
?

He was Full Age when he Married so why would he have a Birth Cert?

Have you not looked at

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: virsonlia on Friday 31 August 18 17:08 BST (UK)
I should have included all that I know.
William James Lemon born 1852 died 1891. I have looked in the census for related family info.
New at this research, I thought a Birth Certificate for Wm James 1852 would provide not just father but a mother's first name and perhaps a place.
thanks for the response which in itself is a tool to improve my ability to  communicate. 
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: athacliath62 on Friday 31 August 18 18:02 BST (UK)
birth certs started in 1864 so you would need church baptism records. The marriage seems to be in a Presbyterian church - second, Dungannon
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: hallmark on Friday 31 August 18 18:20 BST (UK)
Well they weren't RC and you now know when non-RC Marriage Reg starts......

so have you tried looking for father's Marriage in the time frame years?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: virsonlia on Friday 31 August 18 18:30 BST (UK)
Hallmark, this is where I draw a blank. I have looked at civilrecords.irish genealogy and found 16 results.
Using parameters Wm Lemon- marriage-1840/1860 ,Dungannon does not show up.I am not up on my geography to make an informed choice.
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: hallmark on Friday 31 August 18 18:30 BST (UK)
I should have included all that I know.
William James Lemon born 1852 died 1891. I have looked in the census for related family info.
New at this research, I thought a Birth Certificate for Wm James 1852 would provide not just father but a mother's first name and perhaps a place.
thanks for the response which in itself is a tool to improve my ability to  communicate.


Death Cert doesn't reveal much!
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: hallmark on Friday 31 August 18 18:32 BST (UK)
Have you found Wm. James  Lemon in 1901 or 1911 census?


http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Dungannon/Broole_Street/1739698/
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: hallmark on Friday 31 August 18 19:04 BST (UK)
No sign for any contenders as parents 1901  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mmq/
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: virsonlia on Friday 31 August 18 19:14 BST (UK)
I know this info.
Margaret head of household-her husband was Wm. James died 1891. This lady was my gr. gr grandmother. Daughter Mary Jane, my gr grandmother.
It is Margaret's husband William James that I am stuck on Iam  thinking his baptism might give me a clue about his father William
regards
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: hallmark on Friday 31 August 18 20:32 BST (UK)
Sorry!
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: Radcliff on Friday 31 August 18 20:37 BST (UK)
There is one other William Lemon,in this time frame in Dungannon
died in the workhouse in 1906
aged 63 years,
a labourer
widower
from Tullydonnel
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: Radcliff on Friday 31 August 18 20:38 BST (UK)
Go back to the death of your William and note the person who registered the death his name,John Cadoo
this man married perhaps William Lemons sister Mary in May 1876
John Cadoo in Dungannon
Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: hallmark on Friday 31 August 18 20:57 BST (UK)
Already on OTHER THREAD!!   ::)  ::)

Not sure why there is a need to start a new thread and have people wasting their time finding what has already been found!!


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=778059.msg6319167#msg6319167

Title: Re: lemons of Co. Tyrone
Post by: virsonlia on Friday 31 August 18 21:06 BST (UK)
I withdraw. You are correct that time is important and should not be wasted.
Not my intent
regards